(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x45 byo-yomi]
PW[backpast]PB[kaleopa]WR[9d]BR[5d]DT[2006-01-15]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at [
kgs.kiseido.com]]C[kaleopa [5d\]: hi
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pc]CR[pc]BL[3817.142]C[backpast [9d?\]: удачной игры!
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]WL[3786.735]C[kaleopa [5d\]: пусть победит наиболее везучи й :)!
]
;B[oq]CR[oq]BL[3797.851]
;W[dq]CR[dq]WL[3757.412]
;B[ed]CR[ed]BL[3774.896]
;W[gc]CR[gc]WL[3713.269]
;B[gd]CR[gd]BL[3689.206]
;W[hd]CR[hd]WL[3706.687]
;B[ge]CR[ge]BL[3686.958]
;W[fc]CR[fc]WL[3660.271]
;B[ec]CR[ec]BL[3684.487]
;W[cf]CR[cf]WL[3620.573]
;B[de]CR[de]BL[3665.404]
;W[kc]CR[kc]WL[3616.283]
;B[ce]CR[ce]BL[3554.903]
;W[be]CR[be]WL[3608.369]
;B[bd]CR[bd]BL[3552.432]
;W[bc]CR[bc]WL[3577.234]
;B[bf]CR[bf]BL[3550.053]
;W[ad]CR[ad]WL[3575.78]
;B[cg]CR[cg]BL[3549.093]
;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[3547.487]
;B[df]CR[df]BL[3292.665]
;W[po]CR[po]WL[3491.829]
;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[3111.29]
;W[qo]CR[qo]WL[3489.239]
;B[pp]CR[pp]BL[3110.139]
;W[oo]CR[oo]WL[3486.728]
;B[np]CR[np]BL[3108.9]
;W[qk]CR[qk]WL[3483.136]
;B[mc]CR[mc]BL[3104.966]
;W[jp]CR[jp]WL[3346.377]
;B[ic]CR[ic]BL[3005.1]
;W[id]CR[id]WL[3243.589]
;B[jc]CR[jc]BL[2997.45]
;W[jd]CR[jd]WL[3238.039]
;B[kb]CR[kb]BL[2995.326]
;W[kd]CR[kd]WL[3231.872]
;B[lc]CR[lc]BL[2945.257]
;W[hc]CR[hc]WL[3229.408]
;B[lf]CR[lf]BL[2836.473]
;W[jg]CR[jg]WL[3199.539]
;B[pj]CR[pj]BL[2708.333]
;W[qj]CR[qj]WL[3188.438]
;B[ph]CR[ph]BL[2703.528]
;W[pi]CR[pi]WL[3152.499]
;B[oi]CR[oi]BL[2698.01]
;W[qi]CR[qi]WL[3150.367]
;B[ji]CR[ji]BL[2676.459]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: what are these MASTER games?
idazuwaika [2k\]: some sort of tournament?
Valkiry [?\]: see Am's info
]
;W[lg]CR[lg]WL[2998.207]
;B[kg]CR[kg]BL[2614.52]
;W[lb]CR[lb]WL[2925.725]
;B[jb]CR[jb]BL[2599.876]
;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[2912.325]
;B[nb]CR[nb]BL[2595.411]
;W[kf]CR[kf]WL[2905.454]
;B[kh]CR[kh]BL[2592.924]
;W[mf]CR[mf]WL[2900.448]
;B[le]CR[le]BL[2468.309]
;W[ld]CR[ld]WL[2896.184]
;B[nc]CR[nc]BL[2458.409]
;W[me]CR[me]WL[2893.367]
;B[jf]CR[jf]BL[2455.822]
;W[ke]CR[ke]WL[2882.387]
;B[if]CR[if]BL[2454.01]
;W[ck]CR[ck]WL[2872.303]
;B[mh]CR[mh]BL[2436.943]
;W[ib]CR[ib]WL[2836.695]
;B[ma]CR[ma]BL[2387.181]
;W[ja]CR[ja]WL[2833.414]
;B[la]CR[la]BL[2383.959]C[hugogogo [5k\]: why not H18 ?
idazuwaika [2k\]: h18 g18
idazuwaika [2k\]: then white can e18
]
;W[pf]CR[pf]WL[2728.784]C[MrMUB [15k?\]: C18 kills ?
MrMUB [15k?\]: or ko ?
idazuwaika [2k\]: cc18 c17 perhaps
MrMUB [15k?\]: C18 C17 B18 ?
idazuwaika [2k\]: i think kills
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]BL[2270.024]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: maybe too small bcoz black already spent too many moves there
Retrieve [1d\]: c18 d18 and ko
]
;W[qd]CR[qd]WL[2697.726]C[MrMUB [15k?\]: ok
MrMUB [15k?\]: C18 D18 C17 D17 D16 ?
Retrieve [1d\]: like this, yes
MrMUB [15k?\]: ok ty
]
;B[pe]CR[pe]BL[2172.821]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: pro allowed to enter ama tournament?
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]WL[2638.761]C[kyen [?\]: why not?
]
;B[of]CR[of]BL[1923.332]
;W[og]CR[og]WL[2612.546]
;B[oe]CR[oe]BL[1919.047]
;W[ng]CR[ng]WL[2488.616]
;B[oh]CR[oh]BL[1875.234]
;W[pg]CR[pg]WL[2465.574]
;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[1872.081]
;W[re]CR[re]WL[2462.807]
;B[rg]CR[rg]BL[1869.562]
;W[rf]CR[rf]WL[2457.637]
;B[rc]CR[rc]BL[1867.058]
;W[rd]CR[rd]WL[2403.826]
;B[qc]CR[qc]BL[1791.33]
;W[pk]CR[pk]WL[2307.433]C[Wolfi [13k\]: because ama stands for amateur :)
Wolfi [13k\]: I do not know the answer...
]
;B[mg]CR[mg]BL[1680.036]
;W[nf]CR[nf]WL[2266.114]
;B[mi]CR[mi]BL[1670.692]
;W[ri]CR[ri]WL[2178.701]
;B[rh]CR[rh]BL[1649.337]C[Batavia [11k\]: if it is an open tournament, no reason he couldn't enter
]
;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[2170.914]
;B[db]CR[db]BL[1628.736]
;W[ea]CR[ea]WL[2164.376]C[Batavia [11k\]: also non-asian prof is different from japanese/korean/chinese pros i think
Fukurokuji [12k\]: play against pro is good for amateurs i guess
Wolfi [13k\]: the prefix "ama" indicates that pros are not allowed, doesn't it?
EmTom [12k?\]: wolfi they are allowed if they is playing right? kinda logical
EmTom [12k?\]: they are playing*
Wolfi [13k\]: ehm... I don't understand what you are trying to say...
EmTom [12k?\]: try harder
]
;B[dc]CR[dc]BL[1511.939]C[Wolfi [13k\]: white dead?
Fukurokuji [12k\]: no
]
;W[gb]CR[gb]WL[2152.349]
;B[hp]CR[hp]BL[1475.676]C[Wolfi [13k\]: tom, to me your sentence doesn't make sense... a pro is a pro and no amateur...
gogogoo [17k\]: eeeeow, that dog picture is gross
EmTom [12k?\]: i mean that if pro is playing he has to be allowed to play right?
Batavia [11k\]: what he is saying backpast is playing, so most likely he is allowed
EmTom [12k?\]: exactly
]
;W[jn]CR[jn]WL[2097.145]
;B[hn]CR[hn]BL[1450.133]C[Wolfi [13k\]: ehm... wasn't the question whether pros are allowed to enter ama tourneys or not?
Lem [-\]: he's pro in Korea. but tourament is in Russia which has no pro league
Malluin [6k?\]: usualy, and for all activities... pro aren't alowed to compete in amateur things...
Fukurokuji [12k\]: think like this, ' european go champ' is playing in kgs master tournament
]
;W[mn]CR[mn]WL[2062.351]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: is it bad?
Enmar [11k?\]: If he was not allowed to play in ama tournaments he`d have no tournaments to play in:)
lumen [5k\]: it's good that pro are playing in many major tournaments, it ups the competition a bit for very strong players.
Malluin [6k?\]: ie european champ a pro ?
Enmar [11k?\]: as he lives in Russia
flint: if he makes a living playing go ...
Lem [-\]: the only tourney he can't play is World Amaeur Champoinship
Retrieve [1d\]: hoever, if b gets to play d19, w is dead in the corner
Retrieve [1d\]: w
Frango [12k?\]: lives in Russia?
Frango [12k?\]: I thought he lived in Korea
Fukurokuji [12k\]: yes
Lem [-\]: nope
Fukurokuji [12k\]: he studied in korea
idazuwaika [2k\]: can a kyu enter this MASTER trnmnt?
Fukurokuji [12k\]: i played with him in cyprus
Lem [-\]: for sure
]
;B[cp]CR[cp]BL[1046.235]C[Lem [-\]: well
flint: do sumotori play igo ?
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]WL[2017.981]C[Tsche [1k\]: c4 overplay
Lem [-\]: nope
Lem [-\]: too submissive )
Tsche [1k\]: right side twostone is weak
Lem [-\]: b wants to crush crush & crush
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]BL[954.961]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: B17 group dead ?
Voron [15k\]: у
Damir [10k\]: not yet I think
flint: depends
dem [14k\]: why???
Fukurokuji [12k\]: if b make B18
Fukurokuji [12k\]: or C17
Ebyzz [8k?\]: D19 sente for b
Retrieve [1d\]: d 19 is good enouch to kill w corner
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]WL[1921.971]C[Ebyzz [8k?\]: so corner is dead
Lem [-\]: tell w's move to live
Retrieve [1d\]: not sente, kill
Ebyzz [8k?\]: d19 threatens to kill G18
Retrieve [1d\]: for w any move can live
Retrieve [1d\]: d 19 doesnt threaten a kill, it kills
Ebyzz [8k?\]: yes sry
Ebyzz [8k?\]: ^^
Ebyzz [8k?\]: missread sth
Retrieve [1d\]: eh, sorry on my part, i mean d 19 kills b 17 of course
Retrieve [1d\]: g 18 is alive, no kill possible unless ko
Retrieve [1d\]: two moves in a raow
Retrieve [1d\]: -a
]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[784.549]
;W[kn]CR[kn]WL[1861.076]C[Tsche [1k\]: l5 bad
]
;B[cm]CR[cm]BL[549.213]
;W[em]CR[em]WL[1857.497]
;B[el]CR[el]BL[539.804]
;W[bm]CR[bm]WL[1800.114]C[seonkinrot: doesn't seem too good for c7-group
]
;B[bl]CR[bl]BL[253.122]
;W[cl]CR[cl]WL[1788.845]
;B[dl]CR[dl]BL[250.813]
;W[bn]CR[bn]WL[1766.801]
;B[bk]CR[bk]BL[225]
;W[cj]CR[cj]WL[1727.77]
;B[bj]CR[bj]BL[225]
;W[fl]CR[fl]WL[1722.508]
;B[ek]CR[ek]BL[225]C[crosscutt [11k\]: empty triangle!!!!
crosscutt [11k\]: spasiba
]
;W[fk]CR[fk]WL[1694.002]
;B[ej]CR[ej]BL[225]
;W[fm]CR[fm]WL[1671.221]C[Lem [-\]: well..
]
;B[jo]CR[jo]BL[225]C[crosscutt [11k\]: no good...
crosscutt [11k\]: E8
crosscutt [11k\]: nicht zudecken
Lem [-\]: i'm sure w'll find time to play C17
]
;W[io]CR[io]WL[1643.816]
;B[ip]CR[ip]BL[225]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: something says that b will win
Lem [-\]: he will
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]WL[1626.994]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: lol 5d beat pro
ndkrempel [2k?\]: c17? isnt b19 better to live?
crosscutt [11k\]: LOL w will win
crosscutt [11k\]: can't you see??!
ndkrempel [2k?\]: oh similar really
Lem [-\]: i bet on b
crosscutt [11k\]: corner is just a few points
JOHNGALT [6k\]: is backpast a pro?
crosscutt [11k\]: to early
]
;B[in]CR[in]BL[225]
;W[lo]CR[lo]WL[1619.075]
;B[ho]CR[ho]BL[225]C[crosscutt [11k\]: H6
crosscutt [11k\]: will die
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[1608.936]
;B[bi]CR[bi]BL[225]C[Lebertran [12k\]: it`s dinerchtein @ johngalt
crosscutt [11k\]: F10
crosscutt [11k\]: gather stength
crosscutt [11k\]: K9
crosscutt [11k\]: kill
crosscutt [11k\]: L4 of course
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]WL[1579.786]C[crosscutt [11k\]: better yet
crosscutt [11k\]: of course
crosscutt [11k\]: he is pro
]
;B[hk]CR[hk]BL[225]C[crosscutt [11k\]: F10
crosscutt [11k\]: J10 then
]
;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[1559.086]C[crosscutt [11k\]: b E11
]
;B[ei]CR[ei]BL[225]C[crosscutt [11k\]: w J10
Frango [12k?\]: wow, a 11k commenting a game in which a pro is playing, I love it
]
;W[fi]CR[fi]WL[1546.178]C[crosscutt [11k\]: who said I'm 11k?
Lebertran [12k\]: crosscut please not too much
flint: scalled kibbitz :)
Batavia [11k\]: b ahead?
JOHNGALT [6k\]: wouw he got lots of championships
idazuwaika [2k\]: kaleopa is definitely a pro
crosscutt [11k\]: H5 lives = b wins
killmaniac [20k?\]: the influence of white is very...big
]
;B[eh]CR[eh]BL[180]C[crosscutt [11k\]: w wants to kill
Fukurokuji [12k\]: J12 soon :P
Midorya [4k\]: kaleopa is not a pro
Lem [-\]: b is too good
Lem [-\]: kaleopa is more, than a pro
Lem [-\]: u'll see soon
GameFAQs [12k\]: >_>
crosscutt [11k\]: :)
Midorya [4k\]: breakfast has his bad day :)
Frango [12k?\]: he had a lucky win against flyingo yesterday
killmaniac [20k?\]: bacjpast
]
;W[jl]CR[jl]WL[1454.478]C[crosscutt [11k\]: I think w will kil either H5 or N11
Wolfi [13k\]: how are lucky wins possible in go?
Frango [12k?\]: big mistakes by the opponent
crosscutt [11k\]: and-- the time is in backpast favor
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]BL[180]C[GameFAQs [12k\]: ^_^
crosscutt [11k\]: perhaps threat to cut with something like H11 J11 and then J12 to kill it all
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[1382.449]
;B[ik]CR[ik]BL[180]C[GameFAQs [12k\]: ...
Tsujigiri [4d\]: E4 is nice O_O
Lem [-\]: !
Lem [-\]: that's all
GameFAQs [12k\]: It is?
GameFAQs [12k\]: :(
Midorya [4k\]: time to D19
crosscutt [11k\]: no
Midorya [4k\]: for b
crosscutt [11k\]: the corner is not interesting
GameFAQs [12k\]: ...
notes1501 [?\]: e5
crosscutt [11k\]: either kill big or resign
Tsujigiri [4d\]: the corner is dead already isn't it
Midorya [4k\]: no ugrent places
Lem [-\]: C17 gives life
Midorya [4k\]: so take points
zedi [7k?\]: w can play to save it
GameFAQs [12k\]: Does it?
Tsujigiri [4d\]: ahh wait
Tsujigiri [4d\]: :))
GameFAQs [12k\]: What about B18 after W C17?
GameFAQs [12k\]: Ah, D19.
Lem [-\]: C18 C19 D19
GameFAQs [12k\]: Yeah.
GameFAQs [12k\]: ^_^
kingkyle [?\]: hey there
crosscutt [11k\]: w L9
GameFAQs [12k\]: Oh, be quiet.
]
;W[gm]CR[gm]WL[1229.7]C[Lem [-\]: ah
Lem [-\]: net lag?
Lem [-\]: seems so
]
;B[ir]CR[ir]BL[135]C[GameFAQs [12k\]: Hm..
Midorya [4k\]: omg
Midorya [4k\]: seeking trouble
crosscutt [11k\]: now w must connect
GameFAQs [12k\]: ^_^
flint: b has pro level brain :)
idazuwaika [2k\]: dog brain
flint: but his clock is not
]
;W[cb]CR[cb]WL[1072.462]C[Lem [-\]: ahh
TblKBA [6k\]: b seems to have more on board?
Fukurokuji [12k\]: some dan can give comments?
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]BL[135]C[Pepijn [14k\]: can anyone tell me why white played g7 besides treathening the cut?
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]WL[1047.15]
;B[ro]CR[ro]BL[135]
;W[rn]CR[rn]WL[1044.457]
;B[rp]CR[rp]BL[135]C[Janez [2k\]: to prevent the cut
Lem [-\]: cut doesn't work
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]WL[1028.526]C[Lem [-\]: before
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]BL[135]C[Pepijn [14k\]: prevent cut on e6? how?
]
;W[er]CR[er]WL[1013.748]
;B[gr]CR[gr]BL[135]C[Lem [-\]: hm
baldurn: why whit doesnt cut? on j8
Voron [15k\]: почему онг просто не соединиться?
Pepijn [14k\]: lem> w h7 bj7 wj8 wasn't a threath?
Midorya [4k\]: жадный до очков )
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]WL[974.069]
;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[135]
;W[fq]CR[fq]WL[972.263]C[Lem [-\]: E3 mistake then, E5 need
crosscutt [11k\]: b connect
Fukurokuji [12k\]: i guess b started to got overconcentrate
crosscutt [11k\]: aji in K13
]
;B[mr]CR[mr]BL[135]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: indeed.. black over conentreatedad everywhere
Midorya [4k\]: i wonder if b starts to mess things up now
]
;W[lr]CR[lr]WL[945.685]C[Lebertran [12k\]: can`t b simplie extent to h7
]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]BL[135]C[saxo [3k\]: ?
crosscutt [11k\]: it must be hard to play against pro with just 45s byo
Fukurokuji [12k\]: J8
notes1501 [?\]: j8?
Retrieve [1d\]: h7 connects, but for this purpose j8 is better
Fukurokuji [12k\]: yes
]
;W[il]CR[il]WL[883.507]
;B[kr]CR[kr]BL[135]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: :)
crosscutt [11k\]: K2
]
;W[jr]CR[jr]WL[874.474]C[Lebertran [12k\]: so now no connection
]
;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[135]C[Tsujigiri [4d\]: lol
Tsujigiri [4d\]: Kyu kibitz is the best kibitz
baldurn: B is dead?
Tsujigiri [4d\]: no
flint: :)
Malluin [6k?\]: read ;)
crosscutt [11k\]: not yet ;)
jeandoute [3d\]: l1
Tsujigiri [4d\]: This is a very simple tesuji
Retrieve [1d\]: connected on the edge
flint: connects underneath
]
;W[ks]CR[ks]WL[842.895]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: hohoho
Tsujigiri [4d\]: , this is a more advanced tesuji :)
Retrieve [1d\]: hehe
saxo [3k\]: simple but b dead ^^
Midorya [4k\]: lol
Aleksm [4k?\]: :)
Midorya [4k\]: b misread?
Lem [-\]: ah
]
;B[da]CR[da]BL[135]C[Retrieve [1d\]: yes, like most of us ;)
Midorya [4k\]: so i was right
blebleble: M3 workes too ?
]
;W[cc]CR[cc]WL[833.522]
;B[ka]CR[ka]BL[135]C[blebleble: ed*
Voron [15k\]: жадность не порок...
chaklun [-\]: J1
]
;W[lf]CR[lf]WL[814.509]C[blebleble: ok
]
;B[ia]CR[ia]BL[135]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: kaleopa is not pro
]
;W[hb]CR[hb]WL[808.299]
;B[lq]CR[lq]BL[135]
;W[kp]CR[kp]WL[805.066]
;B[nk]CR[nk]BL[135]C[idazuwaika [2k\]: he must be very angry now
]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[794.403]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: i am sad for b
Lem [-\]: теперь конец
Midorya [4k\]: resign now
]
;B[rm]CR[rm]BL[135]
;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[791.18]
;B[sn]CR[sn]BL[135]C[Lem [-\]: на ровном месте
]
;W[lh]CR[lh]WL[784.125]C[dem [14k\]: Lem, кому???
Lem [-\]: черному
TblKBA [6k\]: thats it
Midorya [4k\]: playing on impulse now
Lem [-\]: он обсчитался
blackcat05 [12k\]: J1 works?
crosscutt [11k\]: very tricky when almost all time is used in the beginning...and on top of that, w aims to kill = lot of reading
baldurn: resign
TblKBA [6k\]: усё
kaleopa [5d\]: thx
backpast [9d?\]: спасибо!
ngarry [7k\]: странно
Lem [-\]: N2 не к обедне был
Aleksm [4k?\]: L1 nice
backpast [9d?\]: а что было с очками?
Lem [-\]: вроде получше было у черного
backpast [9d?\]: Белым хватало вроде?
Aleksm [4k?\]: B+5
])
(;B[il]CR[il]
;W[hi]CR[hi]C[backpast [9d?\]: как отвечать?
backpast [9d?\]: там целиком группа не живет
]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
(;W[hg]CR[hg])
(;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[qm]CR[qm]C[backpast [9d?\]: мне казалось, этого хватит
backpast [9d?\]: всем до встречи!
vorg [16k\]: is it going to continue when??
])))
