(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x45 byo-yomi]
PW[flyingo]PB[backpast]WR[9d]BR[9d]DT[2006-01-29]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at [
kgs.kiseido.com]]C[backpast [9d?\]: have a good game!
]RE[W+14.50]
;B[qd]CR[qd]BL[3811.689]C[flyingo [9d\]: hi
flyingo [9d\]: have a good game
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[3805.133]
;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[3808.313]
;W[oc]CR[oc]WL[3798.638]C[darksucks: c4
]
;B[md]CR[md]BL[3785.858]
;W[ne]CR[ne]WL[3774.995]
;B[pe]CR[pe]BL[3689.001]
;W[me]CR[me]WL[3767.045]
;B[ld]CR[ld]BL[3671.808]
;W[le]CR[le]WL[3761.034]
;B[kd]CR[kd]BL[3667.762]
;W[nd]CR[nd]WL[3745.311]C[MysticoN [10k\]: woho a serious game
MysticoN [10k\]: dont see them alot on kgs
pytta [-\]: :D
MysticoN [10k\]: pytta ^^
Ariel74 [?\]: who is backpast, does anyone know?
MysticoN [10k\]: alexander dinerchtein
MysticoN [10k\]: 1p
Ariel74 [?\]: is he German?
pytta [-\]: Russian
darksucks: 3 to 1 odds in favor of w
Ariel74 [?\]: ok...Thanks
]
;B[gc]CR[gc]BL[3522.939]C[Ariel74 [?\]: and flyingo?
darksucks: hu yiqing
Ariel74 [?\]: is also a pro?
pytta [-\]: flyingo is from China
Ariel74 [?\]: is "he"
pytta [-\]: No, he's a player from Beijing Daixue
]
;W[id]CR[id]WL[3708.062]C[Ariel74 [?\]: ok...
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]BL[3519.395]C[pytta [-\]: Zhang Jing Jun, aka jimmy :)
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]WL[3705.199]
;B[hc]CR[hc]BL[3517.803]C[draugluin [15k\]: 5 dan ama
]
;W[jd]CR[jd]WL[3702.311]
;B[jc]CR[jc]BL[3516.828]
;W[ke]CR[ke]WL[3699.669]
;B[gd]CR[gd]BL[3515.670]C[Ariel74 [?\]: but why should a 5d have better chance against a 1 p
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]WL[3672.539]C[calambre [3k?\]: isnt this korean fuseki?
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]BL[3511.188]
;W[qg]CR[qg]WL[3669.459]
;B[pg]CR[pg]BL[3509.619]
;W[ph]CR[ph]WL[3667.187]
;B[oh]CR[oh]BL[3507.986]
;W[pi]CR[pi]WL[3664.001]
;B[ng]CR[ng]BL[3506.252]C[draugluin [15k\]: throat-cut fuseki
]
;W[kh]CR[kh]WL[3629.390]C[Nirvanaki [?\]: can we see games whrere plays pro players?
Ariel74 [?\]: just noticed there is an 8p among us :-)
MysticoN [10k\]: I think the difference in skill will show in yose ... backfast is a killer in yose ^^
MysticoN [10k\]: past*
Ariel74 [?\]: what is yose MysticoN?
MysticoN [10k\]: endgame
Ariel74 [?\]: ok
Ariel74 [?\]: why don't we ask the 8p to comment on the game for us?
Imanol [13k\]: vicvicvicvic
Fukurokuji [12k\]: vic can you give us some rewiev pls??
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[3320.081]C[Imanol [13k\]: bicbicbicbicbic
MysticoN [10k\]: vic §
]
;W[pk]CR[pk]WL[3605.877]
;B[pl]CR[pl]BL[3303.857]
;W[ok]CR[ok]WL[3602.784]C[Ariel74 [?\]: flyingo doesn't seem to like long read :-)
Ariel74 [?\]: we scared the 8p away :-(
MysticoN [10k\]: hmm
gogogoo [16k\]: does 8p mean his rank is not defined by kgs (apart from the meaning pro of course)
]
;B[ri]CR[ri]BL[3186.050]C[MysticoN [10k\]: 8p is pro title
MysticoN [10k\]: 8pro dan
SupRAS [11k\]: it's ok I'll comment for u :)
]
;W[rh]CR[rh]WL[3554.020]
;B[qi]CR[qi]BL[3156.198]
;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[3549.472]C[Ariel74 [?\]: p8
gogogoo [16k\]: r6
SupRAS [11k\]: r8
]
;B[ql]CR[ql]BL[3004.776]C[MysticoN [10k\]: I dont like the position of P12
MysticoN [10k\]: seems in danger
Ariel74 [?\]: r8 solid...
Ariel74 [?\]: backpast's style?
MysticoN [10k\]: yes
SupRAS [11k\]: r8 is 11k move :)
crazyboy [1k\]: r8 is need
crazyboy [1k\]: prevent r8
]
;W[po]CR[po]WL[3395.216]C[MysticoN [10k\]: oh
Ariel74 [?\]: crazy
Centaur [19k\]: interesting
]
;B[nm]CR[nm]BL[2971.176]C[MysticoN [10k\]: seems like white is aiming to make wall atP8 or so
egen [14k?\]: who is flyngo?
JohnSmith [-\]: And so the showdown started... :))
gomadness [2k?\]: can you see how close their swords come to each others necks
]
;W[mk]CR[mk]WL[3328.698]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: now b has to make a move to live upper left
]
;B[pb]CR[pb]BL[2916.444]
;W[no]CR[no]WL[3287.467]
;B[li]CR[li]BL[2772.128]C[Valkiry [?\]: N11?
agrippa [9k\]: amazing how black has troubles
partisan [17k\]: w too or?
]
;W[mh]CR[mh]WL[3216.303]C[supaweak: no no no
agrippa [9k\]: black uses his time
agrippa [9k\]: w doesnt
draugluin [15k\]: w hit now :-)
]
;B[lh]CR[lh]BL[2724.571]
;W[mg]CR[mg]WL[3194.857]
;B[oi]CR[oi]BL[2717.750]
;W[oj]CR[oj]WL[3168.774]
;B[mi]CR[mi]BL[2704.123]C[myao [?\]: who is backpast?
]
;W[ni]CR[ni]WL[3151.675]C[Area53 [11k\]: Alexandre Dinerchtein
Valkiry [?\]: breakfast 1p
]
;B[nh]CR[nh]BL[2701.672]C[Russia [7k\]: it is 1p
]
;W[nj]CR[nj]WL[3149.635]
;B[lg]CR[lg]BL[2699.203]
;W[mf]CR[mf]WL[3146.797]C[myao [?\]: ok
Valkiry [?\]: K14?
MysticoN [10k\]: myao comment game ? :O
Valkiry [?\]: sshh
Sand [2d\]: this game may end early :D
Valkiry [?\]: you already scared vic away^^
myao [?\]: i will ask wang yang 5p to comment, then I do audio lesson
MysticoN [10k\]: ^^
myao [?\]: so pls stay with us :>
Valkiry [?\]: :-O
MysticoN [10k\]: ^^
MysticoN [10k\]: nice
Area53 [11k\]: Hm, that's okay too
Fredrik [-\]: myao has a sexy voice!
Valkiry [?\]: i like white's position
MysticoN [10k\]: me2
MysticoN [10k\]: I think b only got 1 eye at corner so far
]
;B[jf]CR[jf]BL[2538.338]C[MysticoN [10k\]: huh
Valkiry [?\]: >:)
]
;W[pc]CR[pc]WL[3129.569]
;B[qc]CR[qc]BL[2529.588]
;W[ob]CR[ob]WL[3121.779]C[TomasvdW [5k\]: s15 now lives?
Valkiry [?\]: hm what thinking now?
MysticoN [10k\]: im not so sure
MysticoN [10k\]: ko ?
Valkiry [?\]: no alive if b moves
MysticoN [10k\]: where
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]BL[2441.557]C[partisan [17k\]: ko?
MysticoN [10k\]: ko I think
partisan [17k\]: wow bad for b
kimball [?\]: not bad
]
;W[pa]CR[pa]WL[3076.727]C[MysticoN [10k\]: woho I was right
supaweak: it is ok
Sand [2d\]: this has been fisticuffs from the start
]
;B[re]CR[re]BL[2416.652]C[MysticoN [10k\]: oh right
MysticoN [10k\]: alive
MysticoN [10k\]: hm
partisan [17k\]: now w little weak
MysticoN [10k\]: S19
gomadness [2k?\]: ya
Sand [2d\]: s19
kimball [?\]: not alive, but white has to connect k 15 fist
Charito [3k\]: w S19
blbn [2k\]: s14 enough
kobor42 [15k\]: black is not alive?
sheehan [4d\]: R15
benichon [9k\]: r15 q16 s14 ?
]
;W[ra]CR[ra]WL[2945.173]C[kew [6k\]: letsc how a pro ans this question^^.
sheehan [4d\]: S19?
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]BL[2408.579]
;W[qa]CR[qa]WL[2942.246]C[mithra [6k?\]: uiui
kimball [?\]: semeai
TomasvdW [5k\]: b seems way behind on semeai
MysticoN [10k\]: white also have forcing moves
FredLister [9k?\]: this is how the story ends:o))
yumedama [11k\]: k15?
gogogoo [16k\]: s14?
FredLister [9k?\]: k15 no use
mithra [6k?\]: but b has 1 eye, w no eye for the moment
]
;B[je]CR[je]BL[2327.334]C[Launchpad [10k?\]: haha
partisan [17k\]: cut!
partisan [17k\]: omg
Fredrik [-\]: n17?
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]WL[2930.402]C[MysticoN [10k\]: go breakfast !
Centaur [19k\]: wow
MysticoN [10k\]: gahaha
FredLister [9k?\]: what the...
yumedama [11k\]: hehe
mithra [6k?\]: well now here comes w eye
Frodo [10k\]: he had to cut..-.-
MysticoN [10k\]: that corner is huuge
sheehan [4d\]: wh
MysticoN [10k\]: why give it up
sheehan [4d\]: has two eyes
kimball [?\]: the problem is that white can live here
Frodo [10k\]: M18 no question
benichon [9k\]: w two eyes with p16 ?
TomasvdW [5k\]: yes with q16 and p15 w's second eye
mithra [6k?\]: nice
partisan [17k\]: b has to kill r13 now?
MysticoN [10k\]: wasnt it dinerchtein who had so amazing reading skill ?
MysticoN [10k\]: lol
Buntownik [12k\]: o19 p19 m18
Buntownik [12k\]: ?
gomadness [2k?\]: r3 cant be killed
MysticoN [10k\]: im waiting for my big wow
Frodo [10k\]: no way he can kill r13
gomadness [2k?\]: i mean r13
Charito [3k\]: that is why w R15 instead os S19 would has been bad
]
;B[mm]CR[mm]BL[2177.856]C[skyu [17k\]: uhh
partisan [17k\]: but a pro thinks
]
;W[kk]CR[kk]WL[2913.224]C[partisan [17k\]: there is a way
partisan [17k\]: hm
]
;B[he]CR[he]BL[2155.649]C[MysticoN [10k\]: cant see why he would give up so huge corner
MysticoN [10k\]: and it isnt enclosed
Fredrik [-\]: flyingo is really strong
MysticoN [10k\]: yes
Charito [3k\]: flyingo is pro?
partisan [17k\]: hes a sandbagger
JoeZawinul [10k\]: w L13?
gryn [16k?\]: partisan how can 9d be sandbag?
MysticoN [10k\]: but breakpast has said to be able to read 50 moves ahead or so
runtt21 [13k?\]: a 9d sandbagger
]
;W[qn]CR[qn]WL[2837.783]C[Frodo [10k\]: L13 not bad
Valkiry [?\]: doesnt help
agrippa [9k\]: MysticoN [10k\]: but breakpast has said to be able to read 50 moves ahead or so, no?
MysticoN [10k\]: yes
VesaS [19k?\]: what is sandbag?
JensPetrus [15k?\]: omg white should resign
JensPetrus [15k?\]: he is soo bad
Frodo [10k\]: breakpast? :D
mithra [6k?\]: R6 means "now to chase next b group"?
gryn [16k?\]: sandbag == when you try to make your rank lower than it actually is.
MysticoN [10k\]: was a match he said that a group on left was going to die .. when it seemed healthy
MysticoN [10k\]: later on it died
]
;B[ol]CR[ol]BL[2060.458]C[VesaS [19k?\]: thx
gryn [16k?\]: np :)
MysticoN [10k\]: cant say something like that without reading many moves ahead
Area53 [11k\]: No?
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]WL[2819.175]C[gryn [16k?\]: sure you can:
Area53 [11k\]: W wins.
gryn [16k?\]: MysticoN, that group on the left is going to die.
Frodo [10k\]: i read only 5moves ahead :D
blbn [2k\]: black should resign!
Area53 [11k\]: That's 50% chance of being right.
]
;B[km]CR[km]BL[2034.540]C[agrippa [9k\]: lol mysticon :)
agrippa [9k\]: some pro's can read 5000 moves ahead
MysticoN [10k\]: yes
Valkiry [?\]: lol
Centaur [19k\]: there isn’t even a group on the left :)
gryn [16k?\]: Centaur, not yet.
agrippa [9k\]: lee chang ho said once, the next game we play you will lose
hugogogo [5k\]: not 5000 moves in a game
]
;W[ik]CR[ik]WL[2780.546]C[Frodo [10k\]: 5000 moves dont exist? :P
partisan [17k\]: my grandma can see in the future
agrippa [9k\]: and he won the next one
]
;B[lb]CR[lb]BL[2027.745]C[Centaur [19k\]: so, you foresee there being a group?
agrippa [9k\]: so he could read a entire game without playing it!
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]WL[2774.223]
;B[kc]CR[kc]BL[2019.042]
;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[2771.497]C[kJaz [27k?\]: lol
Sand [2d\]: i think just L17 would prevent w from 2 eyes, instead of m18
gryn [16k?\]: Centaur, I bet your 500 fake dollars that there will be a group on the left.
Area53 [11k\]: Oh
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[1981.116]C[hugogogo [5k\]: read 2 moves ahead at the begining means read 361*361 moves
hugogogo [5k\]: 361*360
gogogoo [16k\]: 5000 moves is alot of games
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]WL[2745.981]C[Frodo [10k\]: L13 is shicho :D
MysticoN [10k\]: its shouldnt be a problem for a 9d to read 30-50 moves ahead
Centaur [19k\]: gryn, I don’t have 500 fake dollars, and if I had, I wouldn’t let you bet them :)
]
;B[pp]CR[pp]BL[1962.174]C[gryn [16k?\]: Centaur, ok :)
VesaS [19k?\]: how can you sandbag if you are 9d?
MysticoN [10k\]: I who is 10 k can read probably 10-20 moves ahead
GeorgeW [9k\]: Easy
gryn [16k?\]: VesaS you cannot.
GeorgeW [9k\]: You're 1p
mithra [6k?\]: empty triangle alarm!
Area53 [11k\]: If the 50 moves are forced, it's not that hard. Reading openings is harder.
Frodo [10k\]: :D
]
;W[on]CR[on]WL[2712.175]C[MysticoN [10k\]: reading 10 moves isnt problem
GeorgeW [9k\]: Yes it is
Ariel74 [?\]: the black upper right group died????
MysticoN [10k\]: not really
GeorgeW [9k\]: Who wants to waste timee reading
hugogogo [5k\]: 10 moves is hard
supaweak: do you count variations too?
hugogogo [5k\]: especially with tesujis
]
;B[gk]CR[gk]BL[1903.102]C[GeorgeW [9k\]: Of course not
]
;W[ro]CR[ro]WL[2702.261]C[GeorgeW [9k\]: Kyu reading means they see the tesuji seeming move
Area53 [11k\]: Reading 10 moves in a crosscut situation is kinda tricky.
Buntownik [12k\]: i can read 20 moves but is it corect? :)
TomasvdW [5k\]: it's not about the variations, the problem is that even when the moves are forces, it's hard to keep track of 10 invisible stones
GeorgeW [9k\]: Then read that their opponenent makes the wrong moves
partisan [17k\]: b still trys to kill 010 group
JensPetrus [15k?\]: tries
]
;B[rp]CR[rp]BL[1861.842]C[Frodo [10k\]: i can read all
Frodo [10k\]: books
gryn [16k?\]: frodo, you have to destroy that ring.
supaweak: it becomes more clear to see, but when you have to think about all sorts of variations, it get's more and more difficult
]
;W[jp]CR[jp]WL[2678.335]C[skyu [17k\]: no use it frodo
kobor42 [15k\]: b knows that forcing a group to escape can make him strong, on territories where he was weak
MysticoN [10k\]: its not problem to read 10 moves .. the problem is to remember all variations
Frodo [10k\]: R2 weak point
GeorgeW [9k\]: No
supaweak: that's what i mean, mysti (is my english that bad? hehehe)
GeorgeW [9k\]: S5 can turn it around
Frodo [10k\]: or just s2
Ruutana [5k\]: It's not a problem to read 10 moves? O_O
fdaweg: when ppl say "read 10 moves" it doesnt mean read any 10 moves you like
MysticoN [10k\]: glad someone agree with me :)
GeorgeW [9k\]: White is not strong enough to do that
Ruutana [5k\]: I can't read at all. >_>
egen [14k?\]: W group in center is dead?
MysticoN [10k\]: I can see 10 moves on the board
MysticoN [10k\]: in my head
presiden [16k\]: remeber all variation 10 ^370000000000000
MysticoN [10k\]: thats what you call reading
fdaweg: you can also see 100 moves
MysticoN [10k\]: no
hugogogo [5k\]: isn't it rather smthing like 10<
fdaweg: if its an easy ladder
hugogogo [5k\]: &
Buntownik [12k\]: :) presiden are you sure?
hugogogo [5k\]: 10 pow 700
presiden [16k\]: yes
tagada [9k\]: I don't get smthg, if black L18, could it be seki in the corner?
presiden [16k\]: read the last compute test
Buntownik [12k\]: all variation about 10^23 :)
TomasvdW [5k\]: b seems way behind now
Frodo [10k\]: Q15 dead :(
MysticoN [10k\]: b got greedy
hugogogo [5k\]: Q16 sente
MrAnderson: L18 Q16 miai
tagada [9k\]: oh yep ok
MysticoN [10k\]: unless he can make a huge ko I dont think he will make a comeback
]
;B[im]CR[im]BL[1651.155]C[mithra [6k?\]: backpast had done some surprising comebacks in the last games
]
;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[2633.164]C[kobor42 [15k\]: had to think so much on that? ehhh
hugogogo [5k\]: if you can read 10 moves ahead you can solve some 5d tsumego
partisan [17k\]: kill !!
MysticoN [10k\]: where is b`s cash ? :)
JoeZawinul [10k\]: w should play L13, would kill M12 group isn't it?
kyrilin [12k\]: maybe in switzerland
kobor42 [15k\]: why everyone thinks they want to kill?
partisan [17k\]: he has to :)
kobor42 [15k\]: who?
hikari99 [3d\]: ;p
partisan [17k\]: b
kimball [?\]: no l 13 is weaker than m 12, b will escape then
kobor42 [15k\]: for what?
]
;B[hn]CR[hn]BL[1541.574]
;W[gl]CR[gl]WL[2621.654]
;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1535.432]C[hikari99 [3d\]: b will escape?
mithra [6k?\]: to kill O10 looks like only chance to win for b
MysticoN [10k\]: to think that he can kill o10 at this state .. he must be drunk ^^
kobor42 [15k\]: so everyone tells that r18 group is dead?
fdaweg: O10 has escaped, even b can enclose it r16 dies faster
MysticoN [10k\]: it is
kobor42 [15k\]: what about o14 for black?
]
;W[ln]CR[ln]WL[2536.262]C[MysticoN [10k\]: P14
]
;B[lm]CR[lm]BL[1528.438]C[shadowkid [17k\]: r18 is dead?
MysticoN [10k\]: dont get second eye
]
;W[ki]CR[ki]WL[2530.166]C[shadowkid [17k\]: o18 for an eye, and somewhere around t17 for a second
]
;B[lj]CR[lj]BL[1499.493]C[Travis [11k\]: m10
Travis [11k\]: lag
]
;W[lk]CR[lk]WL[2524.536]C[MysticoN [10k\]: Q16 P15 is the second one
MysticoN [10k\]: for white
lsy2004 [?\]: J11
]
;B[kg]CR[kg]BL[1475.243]C[MysticoN [10k\]: or M18
MysticoN [10k\]: miai
shadowkid [17k\]: black can get two eyes in the upper right as well
]
;W[jn]CR[jn]WL[2501.106]C[MysticoN [10k\]: no
shadowkid [17k\]: T16
]
;B[jm]CR[jm]BL[1465.701]C[shadowkid [17k\]: S14
]
;W[fk]CR[fk]WL[2493.953]C[shadowkid [17k\]: there are a bunch of moces I can see
GeorgeW [9k\]: No
shadowkid [17k\]: moves*
GeorgeW [9k\]: Shadowkid
GeorgeW [9k\]: Black is dead
yamucha: no way for b to live
kyrilin [12k\]: @shadowkid: maybe if he can play 2 in a row =P
yamucha: w could even ignore T16 and b wouldn't live
GeorgeW [9k\]: What if white ignored R10 :P
yamucha: That's another story ^^
]
;B[fm]CR[fm]BL[1363.061]C[hugogogo [5k\]: what's that?
Ariel74 [?\]: c3
JensPetrus [15k?\]: [
weiqi.ru]
GeorgeW [9k\]: Fujitsu qualifer?
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]WL[2432.184]C[MysticoN [10k\]: hmm
]
;B[rf]CR[rf]BL[1300.031]
;W[sh]CR[sh]WL[2413.398]C[morphine [12k\]: black is desperate ?
yamucha: b is losing
myao [?\]: W wins
morphine [12k\]: wasting ko threats...
myao [?\]: q16 sente, all living.
]
;B[gj]CR[gj]BL[1271.853]C[blbn [2k\]: k9 cuts
grmaster [5k?\]: looks like R16 is dead
sheehan [4d\]: b is aiming at k9
blbn [2k\]: black good trick
MysticoN [10k\]: lol
MysticoN [10k\]: it isnt dead
MysticoN [10k\]: hahaha
yamucha: but K9 doesn`t really help b this much
TomasvdW [5k\]: unfortunatly, w is not a kyu
grmaster [5k?\]: but F8 looks good too for W ^^
MysticoN [10k\]: w doesnt have 2 eyes N17
sheehan [4d\]: G11 maybe
lsy2004 [?\]: T14
lsy2004 [?\]: t14 bk eye
Raiden [5k\]: t14 t16
yamucha: F8 seem ok for w here
nickBlake [11k?\]: truck shape.
sheehan [4d\]: w. G11, b. F10, w. F8
kimball [?\]: if white is disconnected it will be at least semedori, this costs a lot of points, so white has to avoid that
momia [5k\]: B L18 is important
MysticoN [10k\]: yes
sheehan [4d\]: G11 protect the k9 cut
momia [5k\]: start a semeai
MysticoN [10k\]: white isnt fully secured
grmaster [5k?\]: W has enough libs to capture R16
SandSack [5k\]: w is alife with his gruop
grmaster [5k?\]: just protect K9 cut and its enough
kimball [?\]: l 18 is not important, since it loses libertys for the big black group
blbn [2k\]: black life : 11 moves ?
MysticoN [10k\]: b got forcing moves to destroy whites second eye
MysticoN [10k\]: and he got half eye in corner
MysticoN [10k\]: so im not so sure anymore
kimball [?\]: how?
yamucha: F8 K9 K8 K10 J8 L8 L10 J10 H11
Javaness [5k\]: half eye is not much use
seonkinrot [24k?\]: black on the top right is aliving shape no matter how i look at it
MysticoN [10k\]: yes it is .. especially when he can use P19
MysticoN [10k\]: and white cant approach T19 in first move
Javaness [5k\]: well it doesn't have two eyes :)
sheehan [4d\]: g11 is still the strongest move I can see
MysticoN [10k\]: white doesnt have it either if he starts semai
MysticoN [10k\]: he white doesnt trade that is
alladin [13k\]: N18 has 2 eyes
momia [5k\]: W Q 16 ius tesuji for get eyes
Valkiry [?\]: J3 first?
MysticoN [10k\]: b got P15
alladin [13k\]: Q16 yes it is
MysticoN [10k\]: after he secure 1 and half eye
TomasvdW [5k\]: b p15 w l18, w lives
kimball [?\]: sorry chaps, but you have a reading problem, white top is alive and black is dead
Fredrik [-\]: Yes, W is alive.
mithra [6k?\]: P15 O14, then L18
TomasvdW [5k\]: w can't find g11?
kimball [?\]: what does g 11 do?
Valkiry [?\]: lol
TomasvdW [5k\]: protect against k9
hugogogo [5k\]: isn't F8 the only move?
grmaster [5k?\]: P15 P13 O14 P14 abit better ^^
grmaster [5k?\]: W has to reduce B libs
sheehan [4d\]: g11 provents the k9 cut
]
;W[fl]CR[fl]WL[1834.521]C[yamucha: b weakness around K13 makes it possible for w to go directly at F8, although G11 is good
]
;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[1267.055]
;W[jj]CR[jj]WL[1830.658]
;B[jl]CR[jl]BL[1265.068]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[1828.294]
;B[ij]CR[ij]BL[1264.005]C[grmaster [5k?\]: P15 P13 P14 O14 P13 L18 I mean
]
;W[ii]CR[ii]WL[1794.409]
;B[hj]CR[hj]BL[1261.888]C[sheehan [4d\]: F11?
mithra [6k?\]: we agre P15 is not a solution ^^
Snapback [15k\]: isnt backpast 1p?
Arctic [2d\]: g12
Travis [11k\]: yeah
TomasvdW [5k\]: f11, b g12
hikari99 [3d\]: more like honorary 1p..
grmaster [5k?\]: he is 1p if his info is true ^^
]
;W[gh]CR[gh]WL[1723.435]C[Moonchild [8k?\]: it is
Snapback [15k\]: yeah he is honorary 1p
MysticoN [10k\]: he got 1p without winning :)
]
;B[fj]CR[fj]BL[1250.962]C[MysticoN [10k\]: becuase he is a western
lowiq [9k\]: yes, he is 1p
Travis [11k\]: is it seki at the top right?
lsy2004 [?\]: why ?F11?
]
;W[ej]CR[ej]WL[1704.490]C[Travis [11k\]: well nm
grmaster [5k?\]: hard fight for B
Travis [11k\]: I guess both can live with a move, but say black l18, is it seki then?
Frodo [10k\]: F12
TomasvdW [5k\]: b dead w alive
]
;B[fi]CR[fi]BL[1202.077]C[grmaster [5k?\]: if B would not be 1p I would say B lost already ^^
morphine [12k\]: if b l18 then w q16, then w makes either a second eye or win the semeai
Frodo [10k\]: :))
Travis [11k\]: he's not as strong as a 1p though
Valkiry [?\]: J13? or does w have followup for e10? e7? any ideas?^^
]
;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[1668.109]C[MysticoN [10k\]: he has beaten top pro
MysticoN [10k\]: :p
MysticoN [10k\]: O Rissei or whats his name
Snapback [15k\]: not much difference between 1p 9d
]
;B[ei]CR[ei]BL[1168.060]C[hikari99 [3d\]: it was a very 'o rissei is winning, but i managed to win' game
Travis [11k\]: yeah as a fluke, he reviewed the game, and even himself said he made like 3 or 4 passive moves because he thought he was in the lead
Valkiry [?\]: depends where you are rated 9d and where you are rated 1p
]
;W[jg]CR[jg]WL[1645.476]
;B[kf]CR[kf]BL[1165.524]C[Snapback [15k\]: how strong is michael redmond?
MysticoN [10k\]: 9p
Tsujigiri [4d\]: 9p
Snapback [15k\]: he played michael redmond and lost by 2 points
Snapback [15k\]: 2-3 i forgot
]
;W[eg]CR[eg]WL[1607.470]C[GeorgeW [9k\]: 2-3 ain't small for pros
TomasvdW [5k\]: on that level, losing=losing
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]BL[1155.788]C[Striker [-\]: anyway he lost
Travis [11k\]: yeah pros can count if they are winning or nto, and just play safely or whatever for the end of the game
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]WL[1581.855]C[Valkiry [?\]: w gets no chance to play a big move
mithra [6k?\]: can w afford to lose G8?
MysticoN [10k\]: pro do 1pt races in games :p
grmaster [5k?\]: flyingo is damn strong player ^^
TomasvdW [5k\]: this looks like b might finally be getting some compensation
Valkiry [?\]: no way mithra, F11 would be strong then
Snapback [15k\]: i want to see unknownplr play a game
Valkiry [?\]: on the other hand w cant do much now
blbn [2k\]: w is stronger
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]BL[1099.959]C[GeorgeW [9k\]: W got beat last time they played
hugogogo [5k\]: not because he won that he's stronger
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]WL[1565.993]
;B[do]CR[do]BL[1096.157]C[hugogogo [5k\]: (he didn't won yet)
Valkiry [?\]: ouch
]
;W[co]CR[co]WL[1539.393]C[Valkiry [?\]: wasnt E7 better than D6?
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]BL[1091.918]
;W[en]CR[en]WL[1535.689]
;B[em]CR[em]BL[1085.382]
;W[cm]CR[cm]WL[1532.881]
;B[bn]CR[bn]BL[1037.335]
;W[fn]CR[fn]WL[1527.593]C[mithra [6k?\]: to make things complicated like that is a good chance
]
;B[gm]CR[gm]BL[1019.936]
;W[bm]CR[bm]WL[1516.917]C[yamucha: all w need to do now is secure lower left corner and upper left.
sheehan [4d\]: game over
aditsu [11k?\]: c8?
Frodo [10k\]: D9
Javaness [5k\]: c8 wins a few stones
Javaness [5k\]: not enough
lsy2004 [?\]: C6 Nogood? D6?
TomasvdW [5k\]: c8 big but not big enough
ronni [7k\]: c8 sente
Valkiry [?\]: K3 first?
blbn [2k\]: b has time to find something!
yamucha: C8 gote
Javaness [5k\]: maybe E15
Valkiry [?\]: oh no, sorry.
aditsu [11k?\]: d9 nice, does it work?
TomasvdW [5k\]: ronni, no c8 gote
hugogogo [5k\]: c8 not sente
dfszf: m3
ronni [7k\]: right - b8 makes it gote
]
;B[df]CR[df]BL[902.284]C[ronni [7k\]: I misread more and more - it´s late
yamucha: w probaly will force b to C8 soon
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]WL[1396.335]C[aditsu [11k?\]: unless he plays c8 himself
]
;B[ee]CR[ee]BL[888.090]C[presiden [16k\]: anyone counting this game
TomasvdW [5k\]: w c8 b e8, not much difference
yamucha: w would playD9
presiden [16k\]: i dont know where is life or dead
ronni [7k\]: very intense game
aditsu [11k?\]: yeah, looks so deep
blbn [2k\]: d13 could kill black f10
]
;W[de]CR[de]WL[1329.429]C[Gimpyjoe [18k\]: if that cut lives is the white in the center in trouble?
ronni [7k\]: I would feel uncomfortable with d9 - but I am weak
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[877.807]C[TomasvdW [5k\]: no, r17 has much less libs
aditsu [11k?\]: if somebody understands, let us know
alladin [13k\]: is C14 live?
presiden [16k\]: both have good sword to cut
]
;W[if]CR[if]WL[1276.220]
;B[ie]CR[ie]BL[875.029]
;W[gf]CR[gf]WL[1268.400]C[Charito [3k\]: top right b dead w alive
TomasvdW [5k\]: now b can try to take the corner
Charito [3k\]: w is ahead by 1000
ronni [7k\]: b d12?
TomasvdW [5k\]: b17?
Tyger [1k?\]: L18
mithra [6k?\]: all-knowing SE says w+83 only
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]BL[744.082]C[Gimpyjoe [18k\]: the bottem is still quite undecided though right?
ronni [7k\]: big endgame moves
yamucha: C12
sheehan [4d\]: F15 enough?
mithra [6k?\]: top left is issue
presiden [16k\]: hard to read
]
;W[fe]CR[fe]WL[1206.338]C[mithra [6k?\]: not bottom
]
;B[ed]CR[ed]BL[741.076]
;W[fd]CR[fd]WL[1204.322]
;B[ec]CR[ec]BL[739.834]C[ronni [7k\]: but now playing top left - trying to kill d16
presiden [16k\]: what happen top right ?
LeSuiss [15k\]: impossible to read ^^
]
;W[fc]CR[fc]WL[1197.822]
;B[dc]CR[dc]BL[734.226]C[sheehan [4d\]: f18
sheehan [4d\]: big
alladin [13k\]: E8
wizard [?\]: D9
]
;W[dk]CR[dk]WL[1161.212]C[lsy2004 [?\]: white c12 game over?
Javaness [5k\]: even worse
wizard [?\]: resign
presiden [16k\]: Open vote ,
presiden [16k\]: flyingo for 250 or backpast
Valkiry [?\]: that's another kind of "double" sente^^
]
;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[647.352]
;W[jq]CR[jq]WL[1153.415]
;B[jr]CR[jr]BL[645.779]
;W[ir]CR[ir]WL[1146.330]
;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[644.349]C[Tyger [1k?\]: B +R
dfszf: bad styl
wizard [?\]: b ?
]
;W[js]CR[js]WL[1124.163]
;B[ks]CR[ks]BL[642.263]
;W[kr]CR[kr]WL[1121.260]C[dfszf: yes
Tyger [1k?\]: yes B
mithra [6k?\]: last weak w group to stomp at
presiden [16k\]: W
]
;B[ka]CR[ka]BL[621.357]C[OLOLiuKi [14k\]: what is double sente
presiden [16k\]: semeai
Tyger [1k?\]: now R18 is safe
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]WL[1091.909]C[wizard [?\]: no
]
;B[jr]CR[jr]BL[619.168]C[yamucha: R18 is dead
aditsu [11k?\]: from b's info: "bout my playing style. Don't call it boring. It is better to say peaceful or solid"
Valkiry [?\]: well double sente normally is, if a position offers a b move and a w move which are both sente.
yamucha: w still ahead even if he lose the ko
Valkiry [?\]: whoever plays first, comes out in sente, and hence has an advantage
]
;W[or]CR[or]WL[1066.709]C[wizard [?\]: D9 is large gote I think
presiden [16k\]: T19 LOL ^^
Valkiry [?\]: playing the sente will clear that situation, so the other player loses his sente.
gogogoo [16k\]: [
senseis.xmp.net]
Frodo [10k\]: P19 first :P
wizard [?\]: b has nothing now
yamucha: um
Valkiry [?\]: d9 wasnt a double sente in that way though, i used it as joke
yamucha: P4 may cut w here
]
;B[op]CR[op]BL[532.092]
;W[np]CR[np]WL[1059.502]C[MysticoN [10k\]: hoho
MysticoN [10k\]: b going for huge kill ?
Randomizer [9k\]: b better take care of his corner
Valkiry [?\]: cant kill
ronni [7k\]: b has no choice - kill or resign it seems
Valkiry [?\]: h3 too loose
yamucha: now prehaps b can take ko
Gimpyjoe [18k\]: maybe not if L3 lives
wizard [?\]: ronni, it's choice ^^
mithra [6k?\]: that is b reading for
myao [?\]: anyway, wang yang 5p will comment this game, pls wait for our audio lesson very soon!!!
dfszf: then Q4 death
Javaness [5k\]: today?
Valkiry [?\]: cool
MysticoN [10k\]: what audio lesson ?
MysticoN [10k\]: is it kgs plus ? :(
myao [?\]: no
MysticoN [10k\]: phew :FD
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]BL[400.413]C[myao [?\]: during china trip promotion
Javaness [5k\]: the go-china?
]
;W[kr]CR[kr]WL[1054.419]C[MysticoN [10k\]: I see
Valkiry [?\]: xD
myao [?\]: i wil give a serie of audio lessons
]
;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[388.785]C[MysticoN [10k\]: oh
MysticoN [10k\]: nice
]
;W[oe]CR[oe]WL[1044.330]C[Spartan101 [7k?\]: myao will it be today?
]
;B[jr]CR[jr]BL[386.837]C[myao [?\]: no, maybe tomorrow, and al files will be on our page
myao [?\]: pls view [
gongames.com]
yamucha: where are you going in china?
sheehan [4d\]: J3
]
;W[iq]CR[iq]WL[1007.755]
;B[is]CR[is]BL[380.065]C[Fredrik [-\]: Bejing
]
;W
CR
WL[1003.714]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[358.060]C[Frodo [10k\]: then ko at Q6
]
;W[kp]CR[kp]WL[981.728]
;B[lp]CR[lp]BL[354.626]
;W[lo]CR[lo]WL[977.540]
;B[kn]CR[kn]BL[350.531]
;W[mp]CR[mp]WL[971.842]
;B[lq]CR[lq]BL[348.254]C[Saikun [8k?\]: doesn't T17 kill?
]
;W[oo]CR[oo]WL[958.295]C[yamucha: P5
Frodo [10k\]: i hope b wins :(
murx [6k\]: Saikun does T17 live?
dfszf: no hope for b
yamucha: N1 is all that`s left
]
;B[gq]CR[gq]BL[304.064]C[yamucha: but b would lose corner
aditsu [11k?\]: t17 t14
Saikun [8k?\]: oh
Saikun [8k?\]: :P
murx [6k\]: Saikun best try probably T16 ;) still dead tho
nickBlake [11k?\]: How does white answer to T16?
aditsu [11k?\]: still t14
yamucha: T14
mithra [6k?\]: t14
guiguistar [12k\]: ...
]
;W[gr]CR[gr]WL[908.359]C[murx [6k\]: there is death in the hane
nickBlake [11k?\]: yea.
mithra [6k?\]: no hane ^^
hugogogo [5k\]: N1 ?
Randomizer [9k\]: will b N1 for ko?
Grimley [6k\]: no
murx [6k\]: weill T14 is kind of .. extended version of hane ^^
yamucha: w will P1 is N1
Grimley [6k\]: then he looses the corner
Grimley [6k\]: corner is already ko isn't it?
]
;B[mr]CR[mr]BL[228.735]C[Grimley [6k\]: if white moves first
hugogogo [5k\]:
]
;W[ms]CR[ms]WL[894.000]C[aditsu [11k?\]: carpenter
nickBlake [11k?\]: i figured you meant the hane at T18, as it is the killing move after t14 t17
morphine [12k\]: this is not the carpenter square
Javaness [5k\]: that looks quite dead
Adraz [12k\]: b fucked up
Adraz [12k\]: N1 for KO
Javaness [5k\]: language
Adraz [12k\]: ack sorry :I
aditsu [11k?\]: why not morphine?
]
;B[ns]CR[ns]BL[225.000]C[hugogogo [5k\]: b may have seen n1 ...
Valkiry [?\]: normal carpenter's square has no outside liberty (r5)
dfszf: p1
]
;W[nr]CR[nr]WL[853.381]C[mithra [6k?\]: o2 only move?
morphine [12k\]: yes
dfszf: no
]
;B[mo]CR[mo]BL[225.000]C[aditsu [11k?\]: I didn't say "normal carpenter's square with no outside libs" :p
Valkiry [?\]: you can still call it c.s. i guess
]
;W[mn]CR[mn]WL[849.041]
;B[nn]CR[nn]BL[225.000]
;W[mo]CR[mo]WL[846.832]C[morphine [12k\]: and Q4 ahould be white?
aditsu [11k?\]: see [
senseis.xmp.net] - it has several cases
morphine [12k\]: should
dfszf: ko fight
dfszf: not nesseseryli
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]BL[225.000]C[Fukurokuji [12k\]: whole black is dead...?
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]WL[838.781]C[yamucha: w as a bit more liberties then b
Javaness [5k\]: this fight looks really dangerous
aditsu [11k?\]: it looks hopeless for b
yamucha: there won`t be any ko
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]BL[225.000]C[mithra [6k?\]: b several ko threats top right
]
;W[os]CR[os]WL[829.994]
;B[er]CR[er]BL[225.000]C[hugogogo [5k\]: H1
humble [4d\]: h1
dfszf: tenuki
humble [4d\]: right
aditsu [11k?\]: s2
Javaness [5k\]: B4
]
;W[ps]CR[ps]WL[809.557]C[aditsu [11k?\]: ah, close
Javaness [5k\]: white is clever
dfszf: close, like Canada and China
Valkiry [?\]: finished
]
;B[hs]CR[hs]BL[225.000]C[DuBWaY [8k?\]: lol
murx [6k\]: dfszf both start and end with the same letter?
morphine [12k\]: i don't see what is black thinking
aditsu [11k?\]: o1?
]
;W[qr]CR[qr]WL[728.608]C[hugogogo [5k\]: o1 is the ko threat
]
;B[ek]CR[ek]BL[180.000]C[alladin [13k\]: it would be better to take M2
MysticoN [10k\]: if b somehow in a weird way .. win this game .. it would be one of the most amazing games ever
]
;W[el]CR[el]WL[723.260]C[aditsu [11k?\]: these guys are playing science fiction...
]
;B[bk]CR[bk]BL[180.000]C[Javaness [5k\]: it's just an exchange of territory
chenfan [22k\]: is b loosing?
Javaness [5k\]: yes
hugogogo [5k\]: wow
MysticoN [10k\]: lol
dfszf: but he couldn't relaze it
MysticoN [10k\]: soo freaking nice
aditsu [11k?\]: why not c8 for b?
]
;W[cj]CR[cj]WL[688.315]C[Javaness [5k\]: the ladder aditsu
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]BL[180.000]
;W[bj]CR[bj]WL[682.104]C[aditsu [11k?\]: ah, but of course...
Fukurokuji [12k\]: i think time is coming for resing..
]
;B[bi]CR[bi]BL[180.000]
;W[ck]CR[ck]WL[678.282]C[hugogogo [5k\]: raysigne
Javaness [5k\]: he won't resign
]
;B[rm]CR[rm]BL[180.000]
;W[rn]CR[rn]WL[670.887]C[wizard [?\]: J3 isn't comletely dead
]
;B[fb]CR[fb]BL[180.000]C[Valkiry [?\]: o'rly
alladin [13k\]: E4
theolddan [1k\]: now ko around k1 stones?!
wizard [?\]: I think so
theolddan [1k\]: starting with o1?
wizard [?\]: G1
myao [?\]: no
myao [?\]: clean death
aditsu [11k?\]: can w do something around g6 or h5?
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]WL[584.068]C[dfszf: c2
wizard [?\]: ah yes
Ariel74 [?\]: myao - clean death for whom?
dfszf: good read :)
wizard [?\]: w is dead
mithra [6k?\]: after b M1, how clean death?
myao [?\]: for w
Aleksm [4k?\]: D4
myao [?\]: but w wins 25p
]
;B[ip]CR[ip]BL[180.000]C[Fredrik [-\]: yes w is dead but still ahead
dfszf: f6
sheehan [4d\]: b should resign
dfszf: a11
sheehan [4d\]: pointless
chenfan [22k\]: o1
]
;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[546.742]C[Randomizer [9k\]: isnt b ahead?
]
;B[aj]CR[aj]BL[180.000]C[dfszf: no
sheehan [4d\]: w is telling b, look I have two eyes
Yrr [16k\]: R17 dead?
aditsu [11k?\]: w happy with the 2 corners?
murx [6k\]: 3 corners
gryn [16k?\]: 3
aditsu [11k?\]: ah, yes, but one was older
Gimpyjoe [18k\]: how does W respond to k5
Javaness [5k\]: he laughs at it
Grimley [6k\]: lol
]
;W[dh]CR[dh]WL[494.137]
;B[di]CR[di]BL[180.000]C[aditsu [11k?\]: :)
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]WL[486.486]C[Gimpyjoe [18k\]: thank you sensai
]
;B[eh]CR[eh]BL[180.000]
;W[dg]CR[dg]WL[481.825]
;B[bh]CR[bh]BL[180.000]C[dfszf: white winning about 15 moku
Fredrik [-\]: more
dfszf: 16?
myao [?\]: i said 25
myao [?\]: u all-in?
myao [?\]: :>
tagada [9k\]: about 20 no?
]
;W[fg]CR[fg]WL[429.219]
;B[fo]CR[fo]BL[180.000]C[Nirvanaki [?\]: 11
]
;W[an]CR[an]WL[417.116]
;B[gn]CR[gn]BL[180.000]
;W[bo]CR[bo]WL[414.047]
;B[eo]CR[eo]BL[180.000]
;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[410.626]C[MaxMakinen [10k\]: myao, i bet 20, lets bet for a beer at stockholm open? :D
]
;B[qj]CR[qj]BL[180.000]C[myao [?\]: sure, max :>
]
;W[pj]CR[pj]WL[398.885]C[MaxMakinen [10k\]: k :)
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]BL[180.000]C[myao [?\]: *owes max like 55 beers*
dfszf: ok 17points
]
;W[hg]CR[hg]WL[394.639]
;B[hi]CR[hi]BL[180.000]C[Valkiry [?\]: ôo
]
;W[hh]CR[hh]WL[391.476]C[Javaness [5k\]: 55 beers?
Launchpad [10k?\]: brilliant!
blbn [2k\]: why f13 ?
Valkiry [?\]: lol
Fredrik [-\]: i think it's around 20
Centaur [19k\]: that’s enough to drown
]
;B[dr]CR[dr]BL[180.000]C[MaxMakinen [10k\]: naah, you dont owe me beers :)
myao [?\]: oh jimmy yose so defensive
Yrr [16k\]: why not T16?
]
;W[cs]CR[cs]WL[360.511]C[myao [?\]: i will lose the betting......*cries*
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]BL[180.000]
;W[bq]CR[bq]WL[356.922]
;B[dp]CR[dp]BL[180.000]C[MysticoN [10k\]: flyinggo sure knows how to win a won game !
Grimley [6k\]: hehe
MysticoN [10k\]: flyingo*
Mirjam [14k\]: s18 group is already dead for eons
MaxMakinen [10k\]: GO Alexandre! :D
]
;W[rq]CR[rq]WL[336.642]
;B[ds]CR[ds]BL[180.000]
;W[dq]CR[dq]WL[323.125]C[Fredrik [-\]: W is totally like "im ahead sucker, i can waste points in yose" :-)
partisan [17k\]: flamingo*
]
;B[sg]CR[sg]BL[180.000]C[Fredrik [-\]: To bad for myao ^^
]
;W[rg]CR[rg]WL[315.789]
;B[cq]CR[cq]BL[180.000]
;W[br]CR[br]WL[312.455]C[MysticoN [10k\]: I still cant believe b gave up corner in beginning
dfszf: i feel that White will start filling dame...
aditsu [11k?\]: doesn't even bother with the ko :)
Fredrik [-\]: He didnt give it up MysticoN
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]BL[180.000]
;W[bl]CR[bl]WL[305.974]C[Fredrik [-\]: He died, end of story.
]
;B[ak]CR[ak]BL[180.000]
;W[al]CR[al]WL[298.362]
;B[ai]CR[ai]BL[180.000]C[MysticoN [10k\]: well he gave up since he died at end
]
;W[sm]CR[sm]WL[289.245]
;B[sl]CR[sl]BL[180.000]
;W[sn]CR[sn]WL[286.336]
;B[si]CR[si]BL[180.000]C[Fredrik [-\]: Yeah, but how you say it sounds like it was a sacrifice
]
;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[278.823]
;B[rl]CR[rl]BL[180.000]
;W[ma]CR[ma]WL[270.016]
;B[pm]CR[pm]BL[180.000]C[Fredrik [-\]: I bet at 15 points
Fredrik [-\]: *smart*
]
;W[la]CR[la]WL[261.639]C[seonkinrot [24k?\]: what about b k5?
dfszf: lol
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]BL[180.000]
;W[qo]CR[qo]WL[258.157]
;B[kb]CR[kb]BL[180.000]C[aditsu [11k?\]: k5 kills a dead group
]
;W[ns]CR[ns]WL[247.128]C[dfszf: you should say this 50 move earlier
Gimpyjoe [18k\]: i read that out when they made fun of me for asking
]
;B[ls]CR[ls]BL[180.000]
;W[ej]CR[ej]WL[243.045]C[murx [6k\]: this is so .. childlike 'my move is more sente then yours' 'no it aint - mine is' ;P
longauer [15k\]: what about b t14 ?
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]BL[180.000]C[alladin [13k\]: isnt O8 better?
Fredrik [-\]: What about B resign?
aditsu [11k?\]: t14 - t16
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[227.836]C[murx [6k\]: Frederik resign is gote ;P
]
;B[il]CR[il]BL[180.000]
;W[hk]CR[hk]WL[225.000]
;B[hm]CR[hm]BL[180.000]
;W[cl]CR[cl]WL[225.000]
;B[om]CR[om]BL[180.000]
;W[nk]CR[nk]WL[225.000]C[longauer [15k\]: yeah ...
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]BL[180.000]
;W[jh]CR[jh]WL[225.000]
;B[]BL[180.000]C[daydaluz [29k?\]: t13?
]
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[ir][pr]C[Mirjam [14k\]: ehh k13....
Am [6d\]: ok....
backpast [9d?\]: thx
flyingo [9d\]: thx
SILD [6k\]: :(
pitirre [10k?\]: ta-taa
Javaness [5k\]: flyingo the champion
mithra [6k?\]: clap clap
pitirre [10k?\]: felicidades
Valkiry [?\]: nice game
Valkiry [?\]: great fun
Am [6d\]: THE CLOSING CEREMONY WILL START IN MASTER ROOM IN 15 min
ALl [3k?\]: thumbs up
Centaur [19k\]: why? 3rd/4th place is still undecided
gryn [16k?\]: Centaur, told you there would be a group on the left.
mithra [6k?\]: maybe 15 min enough to decide it
Centaur [19k\]: gryn, ok but it isn’t dead, unless you count those two w stones at D16
gryn [16k?\]: I only bet that it would exist :)
VesaS [19k?\]: 3/4 ended
Ruutana [5k\]: Is there going to be a big party in the master room?
partisan [17k\]: m11 loosing move?
]KGSSW[96.50]KGSSB[82.00])
