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Богатский vs Динерштейн (партия с КГС)

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(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[7200]OT[20/600 Canadian]
PW[breakfast]PB[breakfast]WR[1p]BR[1p]DT[2005-12-17]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at [kgs.kiseido.com]]C[breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
breakfast [1p\]: Nigiri was made
breakfast [1p\]: Black is Bogatskij
breakfast [1p\]: White is Dinerchtein
lament [17k\]: sorry, what time rules?
gogy [9k\]: bogatskij is 6d, isn't he? and no handicap
Niall [1k\]: (For rules go to Options -> Rules)
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[TonyTiger [2k?\]: russain professional go championship?
BuddyL [8k\]: tournaments rarely have handi...
Niall [1k\]: especially in the final :p
]
;W[pp]CR[pp]C[BuddyL [8k\]: live or rerun?
jyem [-\]: live
fiszarov [1d\]: So there are many pro in Russia?!
GoMe [4k\]: !! More information: [go.weiqi.ru] !!
YannJ [14k\]: Hi
gogy [9k\]: yes, i was trying to say this should be an easy game for white
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
]
;B[dd]CR[dd]C[wilson0956 [12k\]: live?
kuroro [13k?\]: yes
TonyTiger [2k?\]: black is ukranian?
DEMBEL [9k\]: yes
gootik [7k?\]: Dmitrij Bogatskij 6-dan amateur, former Japanese insei, European junior Champion 1997 and 1998, 6-times Ukrainian champion
]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[pe]CR[pe]C[fiszarov [1d\]: and who is Dinerchtein?
lament [17k\]: breakfast :)
BuddyL [8k\]: korea 1p
jantiff [-\]: just when i was finally thinking of some sleep... :)
mstarsup5 [7k\]: Dinerchtein is playing, so who's recording? O_o
gogy [9k\]: buddy< and time set is it usually also at tournament?
breakfast [1p\]: Match translate from Moskow , China restarane
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[BuddyL [8k\]: Time is often very long for tournaments, gogy
GAZ [8k\]: howmany pros are un russia?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: i will take long to see the whole game :)
mstarsup5 [7k\]: ok, thanks breakfast ^_^
BuddyL [8k\]: I would also be interested in that ... does Russia have a recently formed pro institute?
fab [1d\]: except breakfast and redrose, I don't think there are pros in russia
jantiff [-\]: a calm move, very typical
Tictactoe [-\]: i would think they have found a sponsor to back-up this event
GAZ [8k\]: so who plays this tourney? they two?
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
BuddyL [8k\]: I wish I knew more moves ^^ only joseki I know here is R15
fab [1d\]: what were the first games ?
fab [1d\]: where there any ? ;)
stalkor [6k?\]: timesetting?
tarragone [10k?\]: is N17 joseki?
jantiff [-\]: so Bogatskij is a professional too
BuddyL [8k\]: timesetting looks like 2hours ... SD maybe?
snowman [-\]: dinerchtein has got a new favourite trick joseki :)
shadezer [22k\]: hmm i wonder how many moves they think ahea
ItachiSan [18k\]: this is cheating he can read a
ItachiSan [18k\]: our comments lol
SandbagMe [10k?\]: hehe
fab [1d\]: what were the first games in this tournament ?
BuddyL [8k\]: I rather doubt breakfast is so arrogant as to relay a game he is playing simultaneously
tarragone [10k?\]: Time control is 2 hours +20 stones/per 10 min byoyomi, 6.5 points komi
GoMe [4k\]: yes joseki, although O17 or O16 is usually played.
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Yes, we're distracting him with our pathically silly suggestions.
jantiff [-\]: i'm so used to seeing the pincer instead
tarragone [10k?\]: ok, i haven't seen this documented, maybe it's a new one
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[BuddyL [8k\]: snowman, which trick joseki?
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[snowman [-\]: he could explain his thinking process live here, for the benefit of all double digit kibitzers
BuddyL [8k\]: the one he played vs bin?
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]C[breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: provocating
BuddyL [8k\]: is this standard?
jantiff [-\]: late pincer, always tricky :)
TonyTiger [2k?\]: snowman, are you going to european go oza?
snowman [-\]: nope, from finland it will be matti, antti and kare
fiszarov [1d\]: in high Go level hard to say: "standard"
BuddyL [8k\]: but snowman is finland's #1 hope :(
lament [17k\]: the winner will get $900
tarragone [10k?\]: why should snowman go when there are weaker ones to send
Tictactoe [-\]: the higher the level of the player, the more things become standard, since they seen more position then you did
BuddyL [8k\]: kare is ... kasipuhe right?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: yeah, but u can say " shy, slow , good or bad, or agressive even in hi go level fiszarov"
tarragone [10k?\]: kasipuhe was kari, i think
]
;B[me]CR[me]C[snowman [-\]: keppana, tenbatsu and kare, if you prefer that way
Ambivlnce [14k\]: We can say it, we'll just be totally wrong.
Tictactoe [-\]: nice for the young tenbatsu to come and clash with the big boys
SandbagMe [10k?\]: i like n15
BuddyL [8k\]: tenbatsu decently strong for such a young fellow
fiszarov [1d\]: and SandbagMe you could say this now? :)
BuddyL [8k\]: does he plan to be Finland's first pro?
desperado [4k\]: no
tarragone [10k?\]: he has said he isn't so ambitious
Tictactoe [-\]: you cannot plan to find a sponsor
SandbagMe [10k?\]: :D
snowman [-\]: anyway, this game has been safely driven out of the book
Tictactoe [-\]: you must trap them
snowman [-\]: i would think p18 is necessary now
Tictactoe [-\]: preferably in a long term contract
]
;W[nc]CR[nc]C[BuddyL [8k\]: by the looks of it, breakfast can out-stare rocks
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
lament [17k\]: i like how the match is taking place in a restaurant
lament [17k\]: must be rather distracting, though
fiszarov [1d\]: strange move
desperado [4k\]: in a restaurant? O_o
ItachiSan [18k\]: oO
tarragone [10k?\]: aims to cut?
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[fiszarov [1d\]: probably
]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[BuddyL [8k\]: This favors W imo
]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[TonyTiger [2k?\]: white too solid imho
fab [1d\]: I would without doubt prefer black ^^
Sanshiro [-\]: dito
Sanshiro [-\]: but lets see :)
BuddyL [8k\]: I guess my fuseki is just that bad :(
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[desperado [4k\]: i guess so
fab [1d\]: you have the same as breakfast, it can't be THAT bad ;)
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[BuddyL [8k\]: I can play solid like him ... i just can't invade worth a dime
SandbagMe [10k?\]: lol BuddyL
Thing [-\]: *spares a dime for Buddy*
SandbagMe [10k?\]: what's the difference here between low and high pincer ? wan anyone tell ?
snowman [-\]: the upper side white construction doesn't look too clever
TonyTiger [2k?\]: as white I would go for C3 and then later invade everything
SandbagMe [10k?\]: d8 or d9 for instance
Sureiyaa [-\]: i'd play c3 here
fab [1d\]: breakfast really doesn't like to fiht, tonytiger, he is really impressive in peaceful games
BuddyL [8k\]: I prefer F3 here
Sureiyaa [-\]: f3 might be too weak here
TonyTiger [2k?\]: F3 could be considered as overplay according to my korean book :)
Sureiyaa [-\]: but
Sureiyaa [-\]: c3 weak too..
PAG2 [-\]: snowman.. I wouldn't go that far.. he is after all more than 9 stones stronger than most people here .. it might just be that we do not understand his plan :)
]
;W[fq]CR[fq]C[fab [1d\]: if F3, black C3 creates a hard fight
TonyTiger [2k?\]: yay
BuddyL [8k\]: hoho, BuddyL pro
birne [1k\]: is this a live game?
desperado [4k\]: lol
lament [17k\]: doesn't like to fight? :)
SandbagMe [10k?\]: if c3, black d3 ?
desperado [4k\]: nice buddy
fab [1d\]: sure, sand
snowman [-\]: c3 would be my move now
BuddyL [8k\]: this is standard lament, won't be much of a fight most likely
TonyTiger [2k?\]: mine too ^^
desperado [4k\]: well..mine too then!
Sureiyaa [-\]: ...
desperado [4k\]: i'd play D6 though
fab [1d\]: I announced it first :p
Sureiyaa [-\]: i would maybe rather take E5 here
Sanshiro [-\]: id play d6 as well
snowman [-\]: fab, sue me!
TonyTiger [2k?\]: but my friend from china told me that D6 is also preferable for black because he's got K4
jantiff [-\]: if Q4 was black, C3 yes
dagger34 [17k\]: F4 rather, to make d6 weak
BuddyL [8k\]: E5 and W lives on lower side ... otherwise B will become too heavy there
Sanshiro [-\]: but d6 might weaken k4
desperado [4k\]: other way around dagger
janibi [9k\]: souldout vs maci
dagger34 [17k\]: :) k
SandbagMe [10k?\]: with f4 , m3 weakness apears bold for black
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
ItachiSan [18k\]: 3-3 for b lol
BuddyL [8k\]: 3-3 strongest maybe, but can be risky here
Uberdude [17k\]: talking of finland i heard that nightwish did a cover of Walking in the Air
SandbagMe [10k?\]: 3*3 is risky
lament [17k\]: why is 3-3 risky?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: would u find 3*3 ina final ?
BuddyL [8k\]: yes
snowman [-\]: no risks, no wins
Kamenoitte [-\]: Heavy can't be the right word for it buddy, maybe overconcentrated, but Black won't be in danger anywhere in that quadrant, surely
TonyTiger [2k?\]: D6 D7 C7 D3 C3 etc. would be my choice as black
BuddyL [8k\]: I am not a big nightwish fan ... but i did enjoy the apocalyptica song done jointly with HIM's ville and Rasmus's Lauri
tarragone [10k?\]: uberdude, yes, many years ago
gogy [9k\]: what does they thinking so long. this is usually joseki
Ambivlnce [14k\]: They're sharing a good laugh at our expense :)
lament [17k\]: like pros care about joseki
BuddyL [8k\]: K4 and C8 change things a lot
Cleric [-\]: really? say next move then!
BuddyL [8k\]: There are many options and you need to consider the board in your choice
snowman [-\]: c3, d6, f6, tenuki, all alternatives need valuable processing time
Whitefox [-\]: what is this?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: u r so hasty all
ItachiSan [18k\]: i knew it was 3-3 hehehe
Whitefox [-\]: is this lecture? or tornament?
BuddyL [8k\]: I prefer D6 here
gogy [9k\]: c3 is too defensive i think
BuddyL [8k\]: c3 aims at cut
lament [17k\]: snowman, f6?
ItachiSan [18k\]: though c3 makes white with 2 weak groups..?
Cuda [8k?\]: i love pro games, time to get tea & bread in between moves
BuddyL [8k\]: c3 very strong move, but harder one
Whitefox [-\]: is this tornament? or lecture?
NeoNight [6k\]: it is the opposite , C 3 is the most aggressive play
enena [?\]: a pro game
Ambivlnce [14k\]: It's a tournament game, white is the home team.
ItachiSan [18k\]: if b c3 white extend at j3?.. or he 1 space jumo?
Whitefox [-\]: thanks =)
Whitefox [-\]: breakfast replaying?
tarragone [10k?\]: broadcast
BuddyL [8k\]: probably e5 itachisan
lament [17k\]: i assume this is not actually breakfast :)
Whitefox [-\]: any site that i know what tornament is this?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: c3>> e5 probably
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
Zohar [27k?\]: weiqi.ru
lament [17k\]: [go.weiqi.ru]
Frodo [11k\]: Professional?
ItachiSan [18k\]: oh i see
BuddyL [8k\]: but h3 ... maybe this is good play if c3, snowman?
Frodo [11k\]: Dmitrij is 5amateur dan
Akast [-\]: [sanya.weiqi.ru]
ItachiSan [18k\]: but if so b continues in h3?... making him better position noh? i dunno im jsut 18k ><
ItachiSan [18k\]: frodo wasnt he 6?d ama?
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Frodo [11k\]: i think, he was 5d
lament [17k\]: 6dan
Frodo [11k\]: but i am not sure
ItachiSan [18k\]: yay
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]C[lament [17k\]: it's on the website
Frodo [11k\]: his father is 5dan
ItachiSan [18k\]: wow d8 is good
Kamenoitte [-\]: ?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: white counterattacking
Kamenoitte [-\]: No
ItachiSan [18k\]: w is running?...
ItachiSan [18k\]: withs tyle?
ItachiSan [18k\]: ><
NeoNight [6k\]: trying to make shape
Kamenoitte [-\]: It's a contact move. White playing to make shape
ItachiSan [18k\]: oh i didnt expect a tsuke
pershing [1k\]: resign?
ItachiSan [18k\]: res why?
gogy [9k\]: b g4?
akew [14k?\]: AKAST [sanya.weiqi.ru] is a wrong link
GoMe [4k\]: [go.weiqi.ru]
SandbagMe [10k?\]: hmm
BuddyL [8k\]: i think D8 warrants a response
gogy [9k\]: no need to response to each move...
ItachiSan [18k\]: c7 d7 cut and then extend then b extend also?
ItachiSan [18k\]: ><
gogy [9k\]: if w plays h3 b is crushed
SandbagMe [10k?\]: D7 C7 D6 C9 can this be good to attack f3 ?
nickwild [8k\]: f4 as trade possible
pershing [1k\]: E5
pershing [1k\]: шерштл
pershing [1k\]: i think
jantiff [-\]: i would have trouble at this point :)
lament [17k\]: i would have more trouble as w than as b :)
BuddyL [8k\]: B's lower side is going to be fairly easy for W to handle after this exchange I think
arnospain [16k\]: i would d9 i think
BuddyL [8k\]: C9 maybe
PAG2 [-\]: how are they doing on time Breakfast?
akew [14k?\]: pershing - шерштл звучит лучше
TonyTiger [2k?\]: argh. black is a thinker. I hate to play against thinkers...
Prodigious [7k\]: But go is about thinking. :S
Whitefox [-\]: lol, pro thinks
lament [17k\]: no way
gogy [9k\]: the point is b has to end with sente
gogy [9k\]: ..around c8
Whitefox [-\]: u aint see thing yet.. watch the real pro tornament in japan see how long they think
pershing [1k\]: правда?
lament [17k\]: do they still have multi-day matches?
tigrenok [16k?\]: like the title games on igs... take forever
Ambivlnce [14k\]: I try to think, but usually I'm lucky if I can even manage to be logical.
SandbagMe [10k?\]: i would d7
SandbagMe [10k?\]: lol ambi :)
gogy [9k\]: i think c7 is quite good move
pershing [1k\]: E5 looks good for me
ItachiSan [18k\]: !!
BuddyL [8k\]: D7 seems iffy to me, with c3
ItachiSan [18k\]: yay im correct again
ItachiSan [18k\]: according to you guys ^^
ItachiSan [18k\]: <--- weird
pershing [1k\]: E5 C7 G5 ?
Sanshiro [-\]: id prefer d9 i guess
gogy [9k\]: bc7, w d7, b d6 with preassure on f3..
Sanshiro [-\]: or c9? dont know
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
ItachiSan [18k\]: d9 c9 then?...
BuddyL [8k\]: snowman, how do you feel?
ItachiSan [18k\]: i suck on reading crosscuts
gogy [9k\]: d9 is suicide i think
breakfast [1p\]: Time spend B 28 min vs W 11 min
Lilltiger [8k\]: D9 E8 C7 D6 F4 G4 F5 F6 G5 H4 E9 F9 F10 F8 B9, looks possible
desperado [4k\]: D7 is bad
desperado [4k\]: D7 C7 D6 C5 D5 C9
BuddyL [8k\]: c9 best i think
solaris [-\]: this is a game?
carlo [9k\]: D9
solaris [-\]: live
gogy [9k\]: c7
desperado [4k\]: yeah solari
desperado [4k\]: s
desperado [4k\]: live
Uberdude [17k\]: look at the game times pag2, they seem fairly accurate
BuddyL [8k\]: yes, finals for russian pro tournament
ItachiSan [18k\]: lil
breakfast [1p\]: alive game from Moskow
ItachiSan [18k\]: isnt that bad for w?...
Cleric [-\]: MosCow
solaris [-\]: and whos' w and whos' b?:)
lament [17k\]: somebody get more high dans to join this :)
desperado [4k\]: breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
PAG2 [-\]: any dan player input on the moves?
Uberdude [17k\]: the joys of cut and paste
Cleric [-\]: Ctrl+M can turn off chat
Lilltiger [8k\]: itachiSan: it looks quite fair
Sanshiro [-\]: but what means "fir russian pro"?? russians want to promote pros too now?
Sanshiro [-\]: *for
gogy [9k\]: i think if one thinking so long then he cant draw the right move
solaris [-\]: why not, is a good idea:)
ItachiSan [18k\]: but b end wiht sente or im that weak i didnt see it well... ><
jantiff [-\]: any idea Toru ?
ItachiSan [18k\]: xD
SandbagMe [10k?\]: fir, like chritmas trees
Zohar [27k?\]: Dinerstein is korea 1p
SandbagMe [10k?\]: fir russian pros put the stars on the tree :)
Sanshiro [-\]: heh
desperado [4k\]: D9 D7 F4
solaris [-\]: b hane looks like the only move
Sanshiro [-\]: oh corrected my mistake ;P -> *for ^^
ItachiSan [18k\]: d7 is too defensive he shoulve cross cut
arnospain [16k\]: pro that make a living of gogame are which rank ?????
Sureiyaa [-\]: omg this is going slowly
BuddyL [8k\]: 1p-9p can make money from go
ItachiSan [18k\]: 1p-9p and well ofcourse the titles
Sureiyaa [-\]: i was here about hour ago and they have made 2 moves
SandbagMe [10k?\]: solaris, which hane ? d7 ? d9 ?
solaris [-\]: d9
atiushkpe [-\]: c7..
Sureiyaa [-\]: C9
Cleric [-\]: b is too strong
Sureiyaa [-\]: lol
SandbagMe [10k?\]: ok
Sureiyaa [-\]: game just started
]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[BuddyL [8k\]: bad move
solaris [-\]: no:)
BuddyL [8k\]: c9
GoMe [4k\]: lol
ItachiSan [18k\]: all that for giving up the left side?
ItachiSan [18k\]: ><
Cleric [-\]: ^^
Uberdude [17k\]: wasn't expecting that
]
;W[ck]CR[ck]C[desperado [4k\]: D16 cries
jantiff [-\]: non obvious move :)
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[Lilltiger [8k\]: trade
Sanshiro [-\]: why bad move?!? what do u know buddy? u r only 8k ;)
BuddyL [8k\]: bottom going to get too heavy before long
ItachiSan [18k\]: yea i guess b try to play soldi
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: hehe
SandbagMe [10k?\]: im sure it's gonna be quicker now
SandbagMe [10k?\]: as b started a lot
Cleric [-\]: resign?
jantiff [-\]: agreed desperado, it's hard to make it work long range now
Lilltiger [8k\]: it's a very common trade
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Uberdude [17k\]: can w live on bottom?
solaris [-\]: sure, m3
BuddyL [8k\]: f3 aji, wont live
SandbagMe [10k?\]: aji around h3
jantiff [-\]: but, C8 still has aji
Uberdude [17k\]: so try to get centre strength out of the aji?
Ambivlnce [14k\]: It's been a while since I'd seen the bear market joseki.
]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[Cleric [-\]: ah
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
tagada [10k\]: which game is it?
arnospain [16k\]: nice solaris
tagada [10k\]: ok ;)
tagada [10k\]: lol
Cleric [-\]: who's w?
lament [17k\]: w is dinerchtein
arnospain [16k\]: breakfast
ItachiSan [18k\]: btw is there a site where i can learn all the japanese go terms?...
solaris [-\]: b looks slow
solaris [-\]: only bottom moyo
Uberdude [17k\]: itachi try wikipedia/sensei
Tictactoe [-\]: [pw2.netcom.com]
BuddyL [8k\]: yes e5 very bad
solaris [-\]: no:)
solaris [-\]: e5 is ok
SandbagMe [10k?\]: Dinerchtein
BuddyL [8k\]: but overall bad since only okay
solaris [-\]: well, b slow, but quite solid
solaris [-\]: w fast but a bit weak shapes
solaris [-\]: so, probably si even
Tictactoe [-\]: to close to call, as they say in america
tagada [10k\]: eh eh, it's always funny when kyu players criticize dan players that are with no doubt much better than them ;)=
lament [17k\]: b will lose on time :)
Akast [-\]: Даёшь русский язык, во время русского турнира!!!!
nickwild [8k\]: m4 ? best now
]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[solaris [-\]: now m4
gogy [9k\]: p4?
JJHendry [3k\]: he says we should speak Russian for the Russian tournament
desperado [4k\]: lol
lament [17k\]: Akast, a che zh ego transliruyut v English game room?
Tictactoe [-\]: dobre
SandbagMe [10k?\]: non a la suprematie de l'anglais, parlons francais :/
Tima [16k?\]: Нада подумать ты по английски не понимаешь =)
Lem [-\]: хехе
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
PAG2 [-\]: JJHendry .. then we'd lose about 90% of the people here ..
tarragone [10k?\]: not much of a loss, though
tigrenok [16k?\]: ttt, in Russian it would be "horosho" :-)
Dakre [2k?\]: dinertchen is white?
Dakre [2k?\]: +i :>
Uberdude [17k\]: yes dakre
Dakre [2k?\]: thanks
]
;B[op]CR[op]C[Akast [-\]: Понимаю, но ведь положение обязывает. А то термины - на японском, трансляция - на английском...
]
;W[pr]CR[pr]C[Tima [16k?\]: Какие мы нежные!
BuddyL [8k\]: Belastroika!
]
;B[or]CR[or]C[stratego [-\]: камни - китайские, к ответу!
Lem [-\]: По-русски остается только материться )
jantiff [-\]: cool
Tictactoe [-\]: well i sounds very professional in cyrillic doesn't it
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[akew [14k?\]: AKAST - тогда надо было транслировать на русской странице
DEMBEL [9k\]: Акаст - не драчи буржуинов - заходи в клуб - там смотрим и общаемся на русском
Lem [-\]: :-)
lament [17k\]: tovarishi, a che zhe vy tut sidite, a ne v restorane?
stratego [-\]: а вот за транслит банить надо
BuddyL [8k\]: si senore
SandbagMe [10k?\]: is black in good healt now ?
Uberdude [17k\]: do you russians have special keyboards?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: health
solaris [-\]: d9
nickwild [8k\]: is ko good for b because w thin?
tigrenok [16k?\]: banit' - ha-ha
Akast [-\]: потому что в ресторан не пустили
jantiff [-\]: i think so
]
;B[po]CR[po]C[stratego [-\]: :)
Tictactoe [-\]: yes black must have thought of that nick
Lem [-\]: :-)
akew [14k?\]: SandbagMe - triangle keys!
lament [17k\]: akast, ty seryezno?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: wow
SandbagMe [10k?\]: agressive is not it ?
jantiff [-\]: ouch ! :)
Lem [-\]: Гриш, действительно, почему ты не там? )
TonyTiger [2k?\]: yay. white is so strong
stratego [-\]: проспал он
Akast [-\]: турнир, к сожалению без зрителей
stratego [-\]: че скрывать
]
;W[pq]CR[pq]C[solaris [-\]: this looks strange for b
jantiff [-\]: way above my head
SandbagMe [10k?\]: maybe black also wondering this jantiff ^^
SandbagMe [10k?\]: he may have not expected q3 ^^
solaris [-\]: b no good move now
Tictactoe [-\]: stratego is a product name registred by Jumbo gamesmanufacturing
]
;B[no]CR[no]C[nickwild [8k\]: can invade r or m4
SandbagMe [10k?\]: o5 does not prevent all aji from being used ^^
stratego [-\]: Tictactoe, registered in Russia? I must selfdestruct
iko [12k\]: hi
Lem [-\]: :-)
solaris [-\]: p6?:)
gogy [9k\]: 05 should be at o4 i think because w n4 now?
]
;W[on]CR[on]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: white can peep yea
Uberdude [17k\]: peep that to dango
Tictactoe [-\]: the game consist of blue and red armies who challenge eachother at a battlefield with two small lakes in the middle
SandbagMe [10k?\]: so many kikashi now ..
seungsy: what is that? a live broadcasted game ?
Tictactoe [-\]: there is official dutch championship to this game called stratego too, organised by NSK
Ambivlnce [14k\]: You'll be fine as long as you keep your marshall away from their lawyer.
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
seungsy: okay thanks
stratego [-\]: I don't think that my nick is a trademark with me selling products. For now.
PAG2 [-\]: breakfast .. and on time? B must have used a good 45 min by now.. ?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: p6 looks absolute sente , isn't it ?
seungsy: (uh ? you play and do the computer broadcasting stuff aswell ?
BuddyL [8k\]: P6 sente
nickwild [8k\]: why has clock stopped
lament [17k\]: if p6 weren't sente, breakfast wouldn't play it :)
Truc [?\]: it's just a peep
Zohar [27k?\]: another person does broadcastin
gogy [9k\]: b m5?
seungsy: ah
SandbagMe [10k?\]: he is not playing
SandbagMe [10k?\]: only broadcasting
SandbagMe [10k?\]: oh
SandbagMe [10k?\]: nvm
gogy [9k\]: no, sorry m 5 is bad..
breakfast [1p\]: this game translete from Moskow
]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[qo]CR[qo]C[Truc [?\]: is this live?
Zohar [27k?\]: yes
solaris [-\]: after this i bet on w:)
Ambivlnce [14k\]: It's live before a taped audience.
lament [17k\]: doesn't everybody expect w to win anyway
SandbagMe [10k?\]: i prefer black right now ^^
HngryHippo [12k\]: how is breakfast playing it live and replaying it here?
JJHendry [3k\]: in that case watchers should not address Breakfast while he is pllaying
tigrenok [16k?\]: I expect that the stonger will win :P
solaris [-\]: with both hands?
iko [12k\]: : )
solaris [-\]: 1 on keyboard and one on board
SandbagMe [10k?\]: lol solaris
PAG2 [-\]: Lament .. not really .. if you look at what happened yesterday between Aguilar and quaker :)
solaris [-\]: i suppose he move head time to time
Truc [?\]: sometimes the stronger player loses. it happens
JJHendry [3k\]: it's very kind of him to provide entertainment without having to explain things
desperado [4k\]: wow, quaker won aguilar again
desperado [4k\]: in a even game
Atimo [15k\]: M5 bad?
Truc [?\]: for b? too slow
solaris [-\]: is too small scale
BuddyL [8k\]: aguilar seems to be prone to mistakes these days
MaxPowa [13k\]: who is playing in this replay?
lament [17k\]: jjhendry, of course it's not breakfast reporting
solaris [-\]: b probably p8
desperado [4k\]: its live
lament [17k\]: just somebody using his nick
solaris [-\]: and d9
JJHendry [3k\]: OK
BuddyL [8k\]: B's shape very awkward here
solaris [-\]: to go for big moyo
]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[JJHendry [3k\]: are you sure?
jantiff [-\]: but first, ;-)
lament [17k\]: breakfast has better things to worry about
solaris [-\]: very solid:)
SandbagMe [10k?\]: wow
SandbagMe [10k?\]: patient
JJHendry [3k\]: looks like him :-)
Truc [?\]: which color is breakfast?
JJHendry [3k\]: W
]
;W[cc]CR[cc]C[MysticoN [11k\]: what is this ?
]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A.Dinerchtein vs Dmitrij Bogatskij
jantiff [-\]: an invasion ?
Truc [?\]: i see, his territorial style
MysticoN [11k\]: okay
jantiff [-\]: with the ladder... it's severe
JJHendry [3k\]: what ladder?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: black is ok
jantiff [-\]: from E16
SandbagMe [10k?\]: no?
Kamenoitte [-\]: You mean that Black will have to patch that cut at the end?
Lem [-\]: 2брекфаст: в сообщении надо еще указать, кто белыми
gogy [9k\]: he meant e17 w e16 ladder i think
gogy [9k\]: but doesnt work
jantiff [-\]: if b E17, w hane connect then descend at B14 and then up D14
JJHendry [3k\]: B probably b17 now?
jantiff [-\]: then b can't kill the corner until he patches the cut
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
akew [14k?\]: а сколько лет Богатскому?
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[be]CR[be]C[Lem [-\]: 80-го года
]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Truc [?\]: why is it called professional go championship if b is ama
lament [17k\]: because they want to have russian pros
Javaness [5k\]: maybe there is a new russian professional association?
lament [17k\]: as opposed to japanese or korean
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Uberdude [17k\]: get more sponsorship money?
]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[ae]CR[ae]
;W[df]CR[df]C[breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
tigrenok [16k?\]: ok tennis was eltsin... but what russian politician supports go???
JJHendry [3k\]: Lem, ne prav?
jantiff [-\]: likely exchange E15 for D18
]
;B[ee]CR[ee]C[PAG2 [-\]: breakfast .. how are they doing on time?
lament [17k\]: tigrenok, zhirinovskiy
]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[fg]CR[fg]C[Zohar [27k?\]: prolly V. Surkov
Kamenoitte [-\]: breakfast is one of the players, man
BuddyL [8k\]: B's position feels too unbalanced now
breakfast [1p\]: Time spend B 60 min, W 20 min
Lem [-\]: 2jhendry, насколько я знаю пока еще не организуется про лига. Просто такое название партии
lament [17k\]: lem, "poka eshe"?
Lem [-\]: ну не могу же сказать, что ее никогда не будет )
lament [17k\]: nu-nu :)
]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[chon107 [13k\]: this is Live match,isn't it?'
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[jantiff [-\]: c'est une honte :)
lament [17k\]: it is
Lem [-\]: )2tigrenok: russian politician Putin supports jido
gogy [9k\]: oh, i expected d11 from w
SandbagMe [10k?\]: close for now
jantiff [-\]: C7 is honte
tigrenok [16k?\]: any bets on whether white will eventually play B8? :-)
desperado [4k\]: white will never capture it
Truc [?\]: c7 to stop b from expanding his moyo
]
;W[pi]CR[pi]C[erna [15k\]: B 8? I cant imagine...!
tarragone [9k?\]: it was a joke
erna [15k\]: ooh...
peter2 [8k\]: can a go pro become rich?
Kamenoitte [-\]: I can see it resulting from an invasion actually
Truc [?\]: peter2: sure, win a title or two
tarragone [9k?\]: in lottery, yes
chon107 [13k\]: What are the level of both of them?
JJHendry [3k\]: I think W lost something in that UL exchange
]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[rk]CR[rk]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: black seems ahead
JJHendry [3k\]: better play e14 than c17
]
;B[di]CR[di]C[Truc [?\]: b is former japanese insei
jantiff [-\]: this w is no moyo builder
Tsche [1k\]: is b also pro?
Truc [?\]: no
erna [15k\]: e 12 perhaps?
Kamenoitte [-\]: no
BuddyL [8k\]: B11 fine?
Javaness [5k\]: forced isn't it?
]
;W[eh]CR[eh]C[Truc [?\]: Hehe
erna [15k\]: aha!
lament [17k\]: i was thinking of that 8)
ItachiSan [18k\]: he gonna try and kill it
Truc [?\]: 15k move
Tsche [1k\]: shape
Javaness [5k\]: oh that looks fun
Tsche [1k\]: d11 gift
BuddyL [8k\]: Interesting, and here I thought it was an attack ^^
stratego [-\]: [go.weiqi.ru]
jantiff [-\]: after C7 it seems difficult to play
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]C[stratego [-\]: Dmitrij Bogatskij 6-dan amateur, former Japanese insei, European junior Champion 1997 and 1998, 6-times Ukrainian champion
lament [17k\]: b8 is imminent
erna [15k\]: thx
lament [17k\]: tigrenok was right :)
]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Javaness [5k\]: he did very well in the world amateurs i think
]
;W[bj]CR[bj]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: black is now changing his spirit
]
;B[bi]CR[bi]C[jantiff [-\]: K17 is shining !
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]C[MaxPowa [13k\]: at that high level why aren't amateurs just called professionals?
]
;B[aj]CR[aj]C[lament [17k\]: they are in russia
]
;W[bk]CR[bk]C[ItachiSan [18k\]: because
MaxPowa [13k\]: do you have a day job to play an amateur tourney?!
BuddyL [8k\]: because they don't play professional go
ItachiSan [18k\]: they dont do go fora living
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[Truc [?\]: because they're amateurs and not professionals
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
lament [17k\]: buddyL, except for this tournament apparently.
MaxPowa [13k\]: so they give money they win from tournaments back? :P
lament [17k\]: it's all about the name
Javaness [5k\]: what now G13?
ItachiSan [18k\]: is this bad for b?...
]
;W[fm]CR[fm]C[ItachiSan [18k\]: 2 weak groups running?
gogy [9k\]: isnt w dead if b plays d12?
JJHendry [3k\]: no
jantiff [-\]: E13 miai
Truc [?\]: d12 e13
chon107 [13k\]: b11 should be c12?
Javaness [5k\]: not while white can run no
Truc [?\]: and b can always connect under
SandbagMe [10k?\]: f7 wow
SandbagMe [10k?\]: black has blobal intiative now
gogy [9k\]: but one eye for b
SandbagMe [10k?\]: globad
SandbagMe [10k?\]: global ^^
jantiff [-\]: or blobad maybe :)
lament [17k\]: i like blobal
playm8 [?\]: A14 still connects
SandbagMe [10k?\]: hehe
Kamenoitte [-\]: blobal would be a great word
JJHendry [3k\]: B can a14, important option
wozzow: go blol
ItachiSan [18k\]: its sounds naughty
Truc [?\]: w group is under more pressure.. b can always connect
ItachiSan [18k\]: xD
ItachiSan [18k\]: oh
wozzow: g12?
Kamenoitte [-\]: Blobal: of or pertaining to a blobe
jantiff [-\]: no much pressure with F13 blighted
Truc [?\]: imagine if b gets a move around f7, instead of w.. unthinkable!
JJHendry [3k\]: g9
Javaness [5k\]: white has about 40 points with komi?
ItachiSan [18k\]: i think b will seal w's possibilty of connecting in the k17 stone
smu [10k\]: plan might even blo'bad
wozzow: bobably
Javaness [5k\]: i think black has a little more cash
scal [7k\]: b a14 because of p10
ItachiSan [18k\]: if whiet dies his blow
Drimgere [6k\]: which colour is dinerchtein?
GoMe [4k\]: w
Javaness [5k\]: black
ItachiSan [18k\]: w
JJHendry [3k\]: W
Drimgere [6k\]: thanks
chon107 [13k\]: b,spend a lot of time
BuddyL [8k\]: W
ItachiSan [18k\]: w
jantiff [-\]: don't forget aji from M3 java :)
chon107 [13k\]: how long he has
lament [17k\]: w
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
BuddyL [8k\]: Will this be W + time?
gogy [9k\]: p11
ItachiSan [18k\]: blowful
organic [6k?\]: weak groups -20 points
Truc [?\]: they have byo yomi too
ItachiSan [18k\]: see it this way if b play fast
]
;B[gk]CR[gk]C[ItachiSan [18k\]: mmore probably he lose so he resign...
ItachiSan [18k\]: and if he lose by time "doubtful" he still had a godo gme
ItachiSan [18k\]: good
]
;W[hh]CR[hh]C[chon107 [13k\]: breakfast,u play black too slow
lament [17k\]: haha
ItachiSan [18k\]: breakfast is w
ItachiSan [18k\]: ><
chon107 [13k\]: :-)
esidebob [3k\]: is this live or what?
Truc [?\]: apparently
Ciovo [8k\]: why is not possible to go back to see the order move??
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]C[tigrenok [16k?\]: use "view offline"
gogy [9k\]: now b has to worry for e15 too
GoMe [4k\]: Options > View Offline
Ambivlnce [14k\]: W is live, B is tape delay.
Ciovo [8k\]: thanks!!!!!
Ciovo [8k\]: :)
JJHendry [3k\]: good move
ItachiSan [18k\]: or jsut clone the game
Javaness [5k\]: view offline is best ;-)
ItachiSan [18k\]: i knw ^^
ItachiSan [18k\]: is h 17 aiming for shape?
]
;W[hm]CR[hm]C[JJHendry [3k\]: but W has survived
]
;B[ik]CR[ik]C[JJHendry [3k\]: B 2 moves
JJHendry [3k\]: ?
ItachiSan [18k\]: b can still connect at a14 though?...
Javaness [5k\]: it looks very painful to have 2 running groups though
ItachiSan [18k\]: b should a14 that way he have 1 running group with 2 heads running
jantiff [-\]: A14 is the last move b wants to play, no profit
tigrenok [16k?\]: depends on what you could win by running, doesn't it?
ItachiSan [18k\]: umm i see but just 2 groups running? xD
jantiff [-\]: though it's good to have it in backup
ItachiSan [18k\]: i see
ItachiSan [18k\]: and its doubtful w protects it >_<
Truc [?\]: w is fine with running, since he's running through what might've become b moyo
Javaness [5k\]: yeah white isn't going to play on the 1st line
]
;W[ii]CR[ii]C[lament [17k\]: when will b start worrying about P10?
ItachiSan [18k\]: when its dying i suppose
ItachiSan [18k\]: lol kjk
Javaness [5k\]: ;-)
lament [17k\]: it would be kind of too late then
Javaness [5k\]: it can run 3 ways right now
breakfast [1p\]: lunch break starts
ItachiSan [18k\]: he''l probably hit when hes runnign with the j9 group
PAG2 [-\]: how are they doing on time?
Lilltiger [8k\]: p10 is light, can give em up if needed
ItachiSan [18k\]: lunchbreak!
breakfast [1p\]: they will continue in 30 min
tigrenok [16k?\]: oh, no!
Javaness [5k\]: ok thanks
ItachiSan [18k\]: dam they won even eat they'll just smoke so wy not continue "smoking"
ItachiSan [18k\]: hehhehe jk
ItachiSan [18k\]: wont*
Truc [?\]: this is russia. they drink vodka for lunch
lament [17k\]: they're at a restaurant, they better eat
ItachiSan [18k\]: nvm it seems im the one thats smoke
GrandYan [7k\]: Lunch break only half an hour?
JJHendry [3k\]: W ahead now. I think
Javaness [5k\]: so where will black play next?
Truc [?\]: wherever he chooses
ItachiSan [18k\]: im guessing another jump
krevingdyu [3k?\]: K18
lament [17k\]: K7?
Javaness [5k\]: he could go to L18 i thought
stratego [-\]: [goama.upstream.ru]
stratego [-\]: Fotos of the restaurant :)
ItachiSan [18k\]: b cant let to play somhere in n9 kills the 2 stone and plus lot of influence
tigrenok [16k?\]: Truc: "eat vodka" is a more proper way to describe it:-)
ItachiSan [18k\]: cant let w to play*
Javaness [5k\]: i was thinking of K7
krevingdyu [3k?\]: L18 dangerous if w K18
stratego [-\]: [www.djungo.ru] - official site
ItachiSan [18k\]: wow l 18 can live? or run?
ItachiSan [18k\]: T_T im rly weak can u guys explain me?
lament [17k\]: stratego, that picture just gave me a seizure
chon107 [13k\]: g10?
ItachiSan [18k\]: isnt g10 slow?
JJHendry [3k\]: maybe k16
ItachiSan [18k\]: ista keima frmo somewhere there good?
ItachiSan [18k\]: from*
Jugu1ar [5k\]: l9 jump out again
gogy [9k\]: j16?
JJHendry [3k\]: k16 looks to me like B's only chance
Jugu1ar [5k\]: black can connect at a14
ItachiSan [18k\]: buw how about the other b group?
bamb [-\]: m17?
ItachiSan [18k\]: yes
ItachiSan [18k\]: but if white dont let him sente ><
chon107 [13k\]: p11 also interesting
gogy [9k\]: if b can connect than he shouldnt worry about life
akew [14k?\]: breakfast - сколько до цейтнота осталось?
Jugu1ar [5k\]: e18 is cheap sente
Uberdude [17k\]: when did the luchbreak start?
tigrenok [16k?\]: 15 mins ago appr
Uberdude [17k\]: thx
chon107 [13k\]: g10/g11/p11
gogy [9k\]: b g13 sente now
Uberdude [17k\]: "breakfast [1p\]: *they* will continue in 30 min" suggests that it is breakfast doing the game record, but someone else he's let use his account
Uberdude [17k\]: it isn't i meant
Truc [?\]: suggests? we knew that all along
Uberdude [17k\]: oh, i didn't
Truc [?\]: you think breakfast is playing and clicking here at the same time?
GoMe [4k\]: yes
Ordiac [9k\]: hmmm sure
GoMe [4k\]: he isn't?
Uberdude [17k\]: well, a 1p vs 6d doesn't need to concentrate 100 %!
Truc [?\]: he does if there's a $1000 or so prize
Sanshiro [-\]: i dont agree
Sanshiro [-\]: he has to concentrate as well i think
sml27 [6k\]: what game is it?
chon107 [13k\]: could be 99.99%
gogy [9k\]: very risky of w to show us his possible debacle
Javaness [5k\]: i think i bet on G6
Uriel [-\]: 1p needs to fully concentrate, thats exactly what a pro makes a pro.
gogy [9k\]: g6' only helps w ...- they said
MysticoN [11k\]: even though a 1p is better than a 6d .. he needs to read as much as the 6d
chon107 [13k\]: i think inside is more important
Uberdude [17k\]: i wonder how w is going to make up for b's huge lower side
Uberdude [17k\]: but breakfast is great at endgame so i expect he'll do it
gogy [9k\]: i think g13 is nice move preventing w to invade at g15
Truc [?\]: w has lots of endgame, at m5 and other places
Harleqin [2k\]: territorywise white is slightly ahead
gogy [9k\]: ..and also threat at g12
bob202 [5k\]: if w needs to break up b's lower ter. w can win witout his too
Truc [?\]: that's what I like about breakfast's games.. it doesn't looke like he's winning and then boom, he's 15 points ahead at the end
Uberdude [17k\]: did u see that game against some 6d in the MASTER tourny?
Uberdude [17k\]: thought he was losing and then boom as you say
gogy [9k\]: this game looks very close to me
MysticoN [11k\]: well he makes use of the bad moves that black has made in endgame ... though we dont see it
JJHendry [3k\]: W has o2 capture in sente, b4 would be a big reduction, and r14 would make the right side as big as B moyo
BuddyL [8k\]: B thinking so long
JJHendry [3k\]: lunch
BuddyL [8k\]: oh ^^
gogy [9k\]: now it is middle game as i know
chon107 [13k\]: what is the highest level?
Uberdude [17k\]: 9p
organic [6k?\]: soon be endgame
chon107 [13k\]: ty
Truc [?\]: yose is starting, or maybe already started, depending on whom you ask
JJHendry [3k\]: if B k16 will still be chuban
chon107 [13k\]: 9p could give me 31 stones
SandbagMe [10k?\]: yose starts when all groups are stable : here all are not
MysticoN [11k\]: lol no chon
gogy [9k\]: p11 is weak
gogy [9k\]: 10*
soerek [30k?\]: i`ve heard that with 36 stones handi it is impossible to lose a game
Uberdude [17k\]: that's wrong
MysticoN [11k\]: its not gogy
tigrenok [16k?\]: but with 360 it's inevitable to lose:-)
Valkarth [5k\]: ineviteable to lose for white or black with 360? =)
SandbagMe [10k?\]: yes , white wins if black has 360 handis :)
Uberdude [17k\]: equivalent to 360 komi
Valkarth [5k\]: 360 handi means white will automatically win
tigrenok [16k?\]: he can even let black place them as black wishes:P
Valkarth [5k\]: place one stone on empty point and capture all
Uberdude [17k\]: but not pass
Harleqin [2k\]: no
SandbagMe [10k?\]: :D
Harleqin [2k\]: wrong
Harleqin [2k\]: white should pass
MysticoN [11k\]: yes
MysticoN [11k\]: allready dead
MysticoN [11k\]: :P
Uberdude [17k\]: if white has no live groups then can you say black is dead?
tigrenok [16k?\]: good point about 360 komi, uberdude... except it's as if white moved first
Valkarth [5k\]: well in a ridiculous game like 360 handi, white to capture would be the correct way
Harleqin [2k\]: no
JJHendry [3k\]: if B occupied the last point, could you say he was surrounded?
tigrenok [16k?\]: proper move, one must say:-)
chon107 [13k\]: Break,could u change the time for us pls?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: yup
Valkarth [5k\]: since white needs to show black why he loses with 360 handi cause he probably doesnt understand
chon107 [13k\]: if u could
Truc [?\]: in new zeland rules 360 handi isn't much
Truc [?\]: there's no handicap compensation
Truc [?\]: and captures don't count
Uberdude [17k\]: nz also allows self sacrifice ;-)
chon107 [13k\]: maybe breakfast's tired to play black
Truc [?\]: how is that relevant?
Druen [6k?\]: .
Uberdude [17k\]: so white could pass and then black kill himslef
Truc [?\]: b can then pass, too
Truc [?\]: and win!
Harleqin [2k\]: if white captures then there is a theoretical chance that black captures the whole board after white captures. If white does not capture, black is dead and white wins automatically. this assumes japanese rules.
JJHendry [3k\]: would he be dead?
tigrenok [16k?\]: die as a real samurai, by seppuki
tigrenok [16k?\]: or is it harakiri?
Cuda [8k?\]: both
Truc [?\]: or is 360 stones on the board considered a snapback ;)?
Harleqin [2k\]: seppuku and harakiri is the same
Sanshiro [-\]: seppuku it is ;)
Truc [?\]: seppuku sounds better :D
Sanshiro [-\]: u do seppuku, but it is harakiri ;)
Valkarth [5k\]: anyone who is stupid enough to play 360 handi... white should capture to let black know he loses, or else he would argue =)
chon107 [13k\]: for sure,break going to have a meal
JJHendry [3k\]: 361 stones on the board couldn't be captured
organic [6k?\]: ing rules
Truc [?\]: 361 stones on the board is illegal
JJHendry [3k\]: why?
kilroy [7k\]: no libs suicide
organic [6k?\]: suicide
Cuda [8k?\]: they're all dead, no liberties
Truc [?\]: they'd have to be taken off, even if you're playing with suicide rule
breakfast [1p\]: we are continue this game
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
breakfast [1p\]: Time spend B 72 min, W 32 min
]
;B[nn]CR[nn]C[gogy [9k\]: at profi game do the often take a break
gogy [9k\]: they*
tigrenok [16k?\]: was that a sealed move?
gogy [9k\]: no salad
ivoSF [3k\]: what color is dinnerstein?
breakfast [1p\]: no
Truc [?\]: w
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
ivoSF [3k\]: ty
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Grey plaid, I think.
]
;W[jm]CR[jm]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: gogo
]
;B[kk]CR[kk]C[SandbagMe [10k?\]: black 11min48 do u think this is correct ??
akew [14k?\]: j15
gogy [9k\]: i see 12.28?
soerek [30k?\]: black spend 72 minutes that what he just wrote
SandbagMe [10k?\]: ok
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
woman7: I am the stuipest admin jyem's mom, my lovely son jyem's FUCKed me when i was sleeping, I can believe my old son fucked me!!!!!!!! I am90 year old and hardly move! what shuold I do? can I sue my son???? please help me!!! my lovely so jyem recently promote to the most powerful admin in kgs, I am so glad for him but his sexul disire is so strong that he can not stand to **** himself! he can not satisfied **** himself and eventually he fucked me!!!!!!!!!!! I am very shoked but I must tell you all! jyem has decied to **** the girls in kgs!!!!! he said he will **** two girls under 15 year old once a week!!!!!!!!!!! so please be carefull kgs girls!!!!! jyem my son used to be a gay, recenlty he suddenly chance his sex I dont know why, but before I rememmer jyem told me that he fucked TORU, he also Fucked admin seventeen, **** wms, almost all the admin here!!!!!! finally for the peace of kgs please kill my son jyem please!!!
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[BuddyL [8k\]: this was my second guess
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
ivoSF [3k\]: he it started
organic [6k?\]: w confident of h12 life?
SandbagMe [10k?\]: hmm
BuddyL [8k\]: H12 life no problem
gogy [9k\]: heh
BuddyL [8k\]: reasonably open to Q11 and K17 so will find life in those directions
SandbagMe [10k?\]: i would not feel secured with h12*
ivoSF [3k\]: yeah escape is easy
gogy [9k\]: cap would kill at once h12
BuddyL [8k\]: cap, as we all know, is one of the more reasonable players on KGS
MysticoN [11k\]: if a 1p thinks it can escape .. then it can escape :D
MysticoN [11k\]: breakfast has really good reading skill
BuddyL [8k\]: interesting here
Valkarth [5k\]: maybe time tesuji =)
gogy [9k\]: best for b is to cover up at m4 i tink
gogy [9k\]: think*
ItachiSan [18k\]: is he does w o2? isnt that quite big reduction? ><
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
gogy [9k\]: in other case p4 in danger
ivoSF [3k\]: r8 r7 looks intresting for b, white look like a bit hard to escape but i cant read it 100% out
Javaness [5k\]: is there a page giving information on previous rounds by the way?
jantiff [-\]: the aji
ninjadeath [13k?\]: Breakfast, can you reshow the way the game has came so far?
GoMe [4k\]: Options> View Offline
Javaness [5k\]: press options->view offline
jantiff [-\]: users, read the manual ^^
krevingdyu [3k?\]: is it in direct
ninjadeath [13k?\]: i forgot about that
ItachiSan [18k\]: is it rly breakfast the one putting the stones
Javaness [5k\]: no, it'll be the referee
ItachiSan [18k\]: oki
gogy [9k\]: w will jump at n3 and m5, san
breakfast [1p\]: this is realtime game from Moskow
krevingdyu [3k?\]: ok thx
RVREY [12k\]: is b leading ?
ItachiSan [18k\]: defineleading?
ItachiSan [18k\]: points right now? you can count it ^^
Aivonix [18k\]: between?
ItachiSan [18k\]: but reduction and invasion l8er i think b have more weaknesses ><
Aivonix [18k\]: [sorry, entered too late\]
ItachiSan [18k\]: breakfast against 6d ama
ItachiSan [18k\]: a tourney in moscow
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij (B)
Aivonix [18k\]: aha
stratego [-\]: Aivonix, go.weiqi.ru
ItachiSan [18k\]: i havent slept because of this game..
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein 1p (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij 6d (B)
gogy [9k\]: w can j1 also make a life ?
Aivonix [18k\]: k k
ItachiSan [18k\]: >< and its like 7am here
ItachiSan [18k\]: j1?
Javaness [5k\]: J1? i don't think so -.-
ItachiSan [18k\]: i couldnt think of such technique
ItachiSan [18k\]: ><
jantiff [-\]: but there is aji at J3 !
krevingdyu [3k?\]: J1 is quite a new move :-)
ItachiSan [18k\]: if it works
Ninjinka [4k\]: j1 powerfull tesuji :)
Harleqin [2k\]: i think as black i'd connect o2, chase the white stones out while isolating the left white group, then kill with b5
ItachiSan [18k\]: it will rejunevize the go world
Javaness [5k\]: i think perhaps he meant j2?
gogy [9k\]: in fact L2 is the best (for me)
ItachiSan [18k\]: yea me 2 ^^
ninjadeath [13k?\]: L2 seems way to passive
VieTSon [21k\]: O2
Ninjinka [4k\]: c6 not killable
gogy [9k\]: it is but w is 1p
ItachiSan [18k\]: its like a guy said to touya akira
Fabiano [12k\]: oh
Fabiano [12k\]: true
Fabiano [12k\]: :)
ItachiSan [18k\]: dont call him because his the son of touya meijin call him because his touya akira
Aivonix [18k\]: slow game ...
Feileacan [11k\]: i like m4
ItachiSan [18k\]: so we can say but w is breakfast ^^
breakfast [1p\]: [go.weiqi.ru]
Javaness [5k\]: i would play M4 too
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein 1p (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij 6d (B)
organic [6k?\]: w aim h3?
jantiff [-\]: the aim would be J3 rather
Feileacan [11k\]: but b won't play o2
Ninjinka [4k\]: o2 only move
Feileacan [11k\]: no
Harleqin [2k\]: i think so too
gogy [9k\]: true feile..
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Black is thinking a long time for an "only move" situation.
gogy [9k\]: no
ItachiSan [18k\]: if it was only move i thin b would have played it and forget the other variations ^^
krevingdyu [3k?\]: b may try to attack J11 group
Feileacan [11k\]: o2, l2, k2, l4?
ninjadeath [13k?\]: its obvious that black has the advantage, he is pondering how to keep it
Harleqin [2k\]: i guess it is the only move but in a tournament situation i'd think about it too
Feileacan [11k\]: this seems like a gote sequence for b
Javaness [5k\]: nothing is obvious to me here ;-)
ItachiSan [18k\]: b have advantage...
Feileacan [11k\]: so i don't see why he would o2
Tictactoe [-\]: black is counting, either he chooses O2 or M4
ItachiSan [18k\]: i think w have it but if u say so ^^
Ninjinka [4k\]: can also N3 O2 M4 M2 L2
playm8 [?\]: N3 not possible
Harleqin [2k\]: N3 is not a move
Feileacan [11k\]: oo that's nice ninjinka
Feileacan [11k\]: ok maybe not
Feileacan [11k\]: -_-
ItachiSan [18k\]: -?-
gogy [9k\]: n3, L2..
jantiff [-\]: just M4 probably if b chooses that direction
Tictactoe [-\]: N3 wil be answered by M4
Harleqin [2k\]: no, N3, M4
Tictactoe [-\]: so N3 is rather unlikely
]
;B[nr]CR[nr]C[Harleqin [2k\]: you are very diplomatic, tictactoe ;)
Ninjinka [4k\]: anyway o2 :)
Feileacan [11k\]: -_-
]
;W[kr]CR[kr]C[Tictactoe [-\]: being ambassodor to the go-sport ^_^
davidwatt [10k\]: fast:)
MysticoN [11k\]: K2 M4
]
;B[jr]CR[jr]C[GoMe [4k\]: that means black is short on territory?
Ninjinka [4k\]: sure hey both read continuation
Talmied [12k?\]: white can live ?
Harleqin [2k\]: i think this is potentially dangerous for white
]
;W[kp]CR[kp]C[Tictactoe [-\]: yes black has probably counted that M4 isn't enough for him to win, so he must fight
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]C[Harleqin [2k\]: because his lower center group is not completely alive
]
;W[mp]CR[mp]C[breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein 1p (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij 6d (B)
Ninjinka [4k\]: n4 key move
Feileacan [11k\]: this is why i didn't like o2
Ninjinka [4k\]: i think b don't have seen this
gogy [9k\]: tic this is not a fight
jantiff [-\]: of course it's a fight
ItachiSan [18k\]: its not fight its war
jantiff [-\]: a baseless group running to the center
Valkarth [5k\]: stones dont fight, sorry
Ninjinka [4k\]: by now w connected or capture o3
ItachiSan [18k\]: val it seems to me u ahvent seen too many science fiction
ItachiSan [18k\]: ^^
]
;B[np]CR[np]C[Tarrasch [9k\]: jantiff: Where is baseless group?
Valkarth [5k\]: is hentai considered scifi? =)
ItachiSan [18k\]: lol
Javaness [5k\]: no;-p
jantiff [-\]: L4
davidwatt [10k\]: lol
]
;W[ko]CR[ko]C[Ninjinka [4k\]: depend on the hentai :)
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Only space hentai.
]
;B[in]CR[in]C[Talmied [12k?\]: is that word permitted ?
davidwatt [10k\]: permitted?
Sanshiro [-\]: y shouldnt it?
hjkhkl: b O6 has his uses now
jantiff [-\]: i'm not expert, though i read much sf :)
Ninjinka [4k\]: which? space?
ItachiSan [18k\]: toru havent say anything yet so i guess
ItachiSan [18k\]: unless his not there -_-
Javaness [5k\]: nounours est trop gentil
jantiff [-\]: w must have expected this
gogy [9k\]: j6 first really good move today i guess
gogy [9k\]: of b..
ItachiSan [18k\]: well he is 6d
valence [16k\]: lol
ItachiSan [18k\]: but it seems het got pushed all aroudn this game ><
organic [6k?\]: if w connect then w h9 poss threaten fighting
Tictactoe [-\]: i see stones bleeding all over the board
Sanshiro [-\]: i think since f13 its the opposite
Sanshiro [-\]: b has a really good game imo
Talmied [12k?\]: M8 ?
BuddyL [8k\]: M7
Cladoo [5k?\]: h8 then l8
ivoSF [3k\]: h9 does nothing since g11
Karamfil [21k?\]: L6
Ninjinka [4k\]: l8
Karamfil [21k?\]: K6
Drunkix [14k\]: isnt there a proverb say : Big groups dont die?
Karamfil [21k?\]: :)
Drunkix [14k\]: ^_____^
ItachiSan [18k\]: well
Javaness [5k\]: white looks in a fix to me
Ninjinka [4k\]: l8 seems only way out for w
ItachiSan [18k\]: have u seen captain slaughteres 39s tones?
BuddyL [8k\]: M7 best, lets W connect groups
Javaness [5k\]: Captain style is not to be recommended
ItachiSan [18k\]: its fun to watch though
Ninjinka [4k\]: M7 J7 then?
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Yep. Most worthless, lying proverb in Go.
gogy [9k\]: now we will see what 1p can do
Valkarth [5k\]: i would try n7
jantiff [-\]: the proverb is just a proverb
]
;W[lm]CR[lm]C[BuddyL [8k\]: I've never seen a Russian look more excited than breakfast in his pic
ItachiSan [18k\]: LMAO
Javaness [5k\]: haha
ItachiSan [18k\]: rofl
BuddyL [8k\]: And I would like to point out BuddyL's move was chosen by the 1p
ItachiSan [18k\]: whos he>
ItachiSan [18k\]: ?
ItachiSan [18k\]: xD
Valkarth [5k\]: does that mean hes 8k? =)
jantiff [-\]: b's lump, very worrying
Sanshiro [-\]: hero...
ItachiSan [18k\]: congratz
Aivonix [18k\]: yeh he saw u and he decided to listen to you
Ninjinka [4k\]: probably he take a minute connect on kgs read your comment then go playing m7... i trust this :)
BuddyL [8k\]: B won't J7 because of lump,, so W connects
ItachiSan [18k\]: u should say hi
ItachiSan [18k\]: he was like that look promising lets try it i bet he'll say l8er now what?
ItachiSan [18k\]: hehehe jk
Tarrasch [9k\]: If M7 J7, then O7. No?
ItachiSan [18k\]: p7?
ItachiSan [18k\]: xD
Ninjinka [4k\]: well i'll furikawari o3 for c6 ...
BuddyL [8k\]: C6 won't die
Javaness [5k\]: i want N8
Karamfil [21k?\]: C6
Karamfil [21k?\]: *o6
BuddyL [8k\]: any WoW players here?
ItachiSan [18k\]: worl of warcraft?
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]C[Ninjinka [4k\]: well sometimes in may games someone say wow .. it's enought for you? :)
ItachiSan [18k\]: lol
Sanshiro [-\]: heh
Ninjinka [4k\]: *my
BuddyL [8k\]: J7 now for W
breakfast [1p\]: The final match of the 1st Russian Professional Go Championship A. Dinerchtein 1p (W) vs Dmitrij Bogatskij 6d (B)
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Anyone see that one coming?
ItachiSan [18k\]: me
ItachiSan [18k\]: im so weak its the only reasonable move for me
ItachiSan [18k\]: lol
ItachiSan [18k\]: ><
Javaness [5k\]: looks weird
ivoSF [3k\]: bah if black does this his reading sucks more then mine
soerek [30k?\]: me too
]
;W[jl]CR[jl]C[BuddyL [8k\]: W hoping to connect in sente?
Sanshiro [-\]: how do u wanna know what he read out ivo?
Sanshiro [-\]: i guess its the opposite, ur reading sucks and b saw something u didnt ^_~
ivoSF [3k\]: if he read out white can escape he wont do this al to play q6 so he thought he could kill
Ambivlnce [14k\]: He read over an advance copy of the script.
jantiff [-\]: former insei can read... urgh
]
;B[ij]CR[ij]C[BuddyL [8k\]: H8 should still be sente?
gogy [9k\]: sure he can read out and that isnt right i think
Tictactoe [-\]: ivo black played O2 since he is thinking he is behind, but i think black should have choosen M4 instead of O2
BuddyL [8k\]: yes I agree
ItachiSan [18k\]: he just want a bloody fight
gogy [9k\]: yes we mentioned m4 several times..
Tictactoe [-\]: and i am positive that dimitri bogatski will still crush you in an H4 game
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Re: Богатский vs Динерштейн (партия с КГС)
Глорфиндейл на rugo.ru Знаток Го
19, December, 2005 16:45   Об авторе Фотографии автора Партии автора Набор Го автора
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Похоже текст оказался таким длинным, что не влез целиком в один пост... =о( Я думаю, надо разместить файл на одном из блогов, например: go.weiqi.ru



Го учит предвидеть...

Re: Богатский vs Динерштейн (партия с КГС)
Aragorn на rugo.ru Учитель Го Черный пояс
19, December, 2005 17:52   Об авторе Фотографии автора Партии автора Набор Го автора
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Цитата:
Я думаю, надо разместить файл на одном из блогов, например: go.weiqi.ru

О! Если б Саша разместил. Не очень затруднит?



Стратегия выше цели
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Re: Богатский vs Динерштейн (партия с КГС)
Seneka на rugo.ru Гость
20, December, 2005 13:28   Об авторе Фотографии автора Партии автора Набор Го автора
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У меня тоже не получилось здесь выложить диаграмму. Хотя с помощью MultyGo все нормально читается.
Причем партия Попова-Дмитриева выложилась нормально



Отправка отредактированного (20/12/05 13:39)

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Re: Богатский vs Динерштейн (партия с КГС)
Vector на rugo.ru Любитель Го
20, December, 2005 14:32   Об авторе Фотографии автора Партии автора Набор Го автора
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Олег, кинь мне партию по почте


Re: Богатский vs Динерштейн (партия с КГС)
Михаил Емельянов на rugo.ru Эксперт Го
21, December, 2005 00:29   Об авторе Фотографии автора Партии автора Набор Го автора
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граждане киньте мне голуя партию. Я её предварительно размещу на англоязычном блоге.



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